Posted on 07/08/2006 9:23:38 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
Sure we would. But the Scriptures say otherwise. I believe the teachings for church structure as set out in the book of Timothy is more relevant.
"I read the same passage and come to a different conclusion."
You're replying to my post 92, try reading my post number 99.
In other words, they are popes unto themselves.
"In other words, they are popes unto themselves."
Well isn't that what Catholic Church believes?
In the 20th Chapter of Luke, where he is hit by the puzzle of wives and husbands, Our Lord says something interesting. He says not only do those in heaven not marry but that they are some on earth in the kingdom who are are already like the angels in that respect. Not only did Our Lord live like a monk, or to be more exact like a Friar, but, as Luke points out, as he was writing there were already those who lived celibate lives in imitation of Our Lord. Of course there is also the example of St. John, whose life and our Lord paralleled, and then of course the life of St. Paul followed much the same course.
Are you talking about communion? The Catholic Church doesn't follow that either? They get a wafer? Not bread and wine.
No, the Catholic Church does not believe in individual popism.
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So what about Peter? Upon whom the Church was built?
2 Peter 1:20I am not denying the inspiration of the passage in 1 Timothy, only your interpretation of it. Indeed I would hold that what St. Peter states above also applies to how we read Scripture, i.e. that we should read it through the eyes of the Church and not by private interpretation.
Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation.
Sure it does. Whatever the Pope says is a discipline is what it practices does it not?
" ... that we should read it through the eyes of the Church..."
That's not the scripture says. Where is what you are saying in scripture?
I really don't understand how that is applicable to what we were saying. Hey, by the way, how come you never answered Dogma's and mine question about women learning in submission and not being allowed to teach in church. I'm asking you again, do you or do you not agree with Scripture on that?
Respectfully stated/asked...
"Have to disagree. I feel that it's mistreating the wound. The problem with the homosexualization and liberalization of some of the clergy won't be cured just by ending the celibacy tradition."
I do agree with you, that probably wouldn't stop the multitude of homosexuals from trying to become priests...
My questions is what number of married men, who firmly meet the standards put forth in Timothy, do not get the chance to spread the Faith as priests/Bishops because they are married? I'm not slamming the RCC just curious if there have ever been numbers tallied?
My father was a minister in the Wisconsin Synod and I can assure you that my brother/sister/Mom/me NEVER came before his duties as a servant of God and we understood that his role was to serve the congregation first. I guess I just find that this argument is a convenient one to support unmarried priests. There will always be more loyal and less loyal priests, whether they have a wife/family or not is not the only reason they are strong or weak servants...just my opinion, but I do tire of hearing that a married man can't be devoted to God's service as it's simply untrue...Obviously we know Peter was married and he did a "rock" solid job...nice play on words, eh? ;-)...
God's blessings to you and yours!
The bread is his Word, the body, and the wine his blood, his sacrifice on the cross.
You injest a wafer.
Indeed, I found the next sentence even more confusing. It's as if he's saying, on the one hand, that the Anglicans should not have women bishops until the Catholics can approve, and on the other, they never will approve.
I'm trying to read it in such a way that it doesn't sound vaguely sarcastic, and more befitting the head of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity.
At the moment I'm blaming the reporter who wrote this up. Possibly in full context his comments would be clearer.
"I really don't understand how that is applicable to what we were saying."
Of course you don't. You believe that what the Pope say is a discipline is what you practice. I don't. I believe what the word of God says is what you practice.
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