That is the sine qua non "reasoning" of a liberal. And soi disant traditionalists are as liberal ecclessiastically as Teddy Kennedy is liberal politically. They always blame others for their perfidious acts.
Rightly denounced for supporting a schism, they wrongly defend themsleves by saying Yeah, but Bishop X is also disobedient. So?
The issue is NOT whether your legitimate Bishop is or isn't obedient or disobedient, the issue is ARE YOU OBEDIENT AND IN UNION WITH YOUR BISHOP AND THE POPE ?. THAT is what it means to be Catholic.
That reality, howeveer, is too stark. It focuses attention where attention ought be focused.
And so, when attention is focused on individual responsibility, (The adult Christian idea), the response, invariably, is one of the child, Yeah, well, so? Bishop X is disobedient and he has altar girls and bad songs and sermons and doesn't allow the Indult so there
We can't control what fellay, or williamson or our local Bishop does. We can, and must, control ourselves. And we cannot identify the disobedience of others as an excuse for schism.
Disobedience and Schism are never justififable.
But being sspx means never having to grow-up and accept responsibility.
Still clueless. If my local ordinary is in schism or promoting imoral behavior by his subordinates to the harm of me and my family, I can seek the valid Sacraments from SSPX clerics without being 'in schism' and while being in 'union' with Rome and the legitimate Teaching Magesterium of the Church. Your constant attempts to label those who take the Sacraments at SSPX chapels as members of the SSPX is dishonest and you know it. It is frankly abusive in that it becomes a PERSONAL ATTACK rather than a civil discussion. Take note please as I intend to hit the 'abuse' button every time I see such attcks from you in the future.
The Ninth Article of the Creed
Q: What does the Ninth article: The Holy Catholic Church, the Communion of Saints, teach us?
A: The Ninth Article of the Creed teaches us that Jesus Christ founded a visible society on earth called the Catholic Church, and that all those who belong to this Church are in communion with one another.
8 Q: What is the Catholic Church?
A: The Catholic Church is the Union or Congregation of all the baptized who, still living on earth, profess the same Faith and the same Law of Jesus Christ, participate in the same Sacraments, and obey their lawful Pastors, particularly the Roman Pontiff.
9 Q: State distinctly what is necessary to be a member of the Church?
A: To be a member of the Church it is necessary to be baptized, to believe and profess the teaching of Jesus Christ, to participate in the same Sacraments, and to acknowledge the Pope and the other lawful pastors of the Church.
10 Q: Who are the lawful pastors of the Church?
A: The lawful pastors of the Church are the Roman Pontiff, that is, the Pope, who is Supreme Pastor, and the Bishops. Other priests, also, and especially Parish Priests, have a share in the pastoral office, subject to the Bishop and the Pope.
11 Q: Why do you say that the Roman Pontiff is supreme Pastor of the Church?
A: Because Jesus Christ said to St. Peter, the first Pope: "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and I will give to thee the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatsoever thee shalt bind on earth shall be bound also in Heaven, and whatsoever the shallot loose on earth shall be loosed also in Heaven." And again: "Feed My lambs, feed My sheep."
12 Q: The many societies of persons who are baptized but who do not acknowledge the Roman Pontiff as their Head do not, then, belong to the Church of Jesus Christ?
A: No, those who do not acknowledge the Roman Pontiff as their Head do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ.
14 Q: Why is the Church called One?
A: The true Church is called One, because her children of all ages and places are united together in the same faith, in the same worship, in the same law; and in participation of the same Sacraments, under the same visible Head, the Roman Pontiff.
23 Q: In what does the Body of the Church consist?
A: The Body of the Church consists in her external and visible aspect, that is, in the association of her members, in her worship, in her teaching-power and in her external rule and government.
32 Q: Are we also obliged to do all that the Church commands?
A: Yes, we are obliged to do all that the Church commands, for Jesus Christ has said to the Pastors of the Church: "He who hears you, hears Me, and he who despises you, despises Me." 37 Q: Has a Catholic any other duties towards the Church?
A: Every Catholic ought to have a boundless love for the Church, ought to consider himself infinitely honored and happy in belonging to her, and ought to labor for her glory and advancement by every means in his power.
43 Q: Of whom is the Teaching Church composed?
A: The Teaching Church is composed of all the Bishops, with the Roman Pontiff at their head, be they dispersed throughout the world or assembled together in Council.
47 Q: Besides her teaching power has the Church any other power?
A: Yes, besides her teaching power the Church has in particular the power of administering sacred things, of making laws and of exacting the observance of them.
462 Q: How should every Catholic act towards the Pope?
A: Every Catholic must acknowledge the Pope as Father, Pastor, and Universal Teacher, and be united with him in mind and heart.
63 Q: After the Pope, who are they who by Divine appointment are to be most venerated in the Church?
A: After the Pope, those who by Divine appointment are to be most venerated in the Church are the Bishops.
64 Q: Who are the Bishops?
A: The Bishops are the pastors of the faithful; placed by the Holy Ghost to rule the Church of God in the Sees entrusted to them, in dependence on the Roman Pontiff
65 Q: What is a Bishop in his own diocese?
A: A Bishop in his own diocese is the lawful Pastor, the Father, the Teacher, the Superior of all the faithful, ecclesiastic and lay belonging to his diocese.
66 Q: Why is the Bishop called the lawful Pastor?
A: The Bishop is called the lawful Pastor because the jurisdiction, or the power which he has to govern the faithful of his diocese, is conferred upon him according to the laws and regulations of the Church.
67 Q: To whom do the Pope and the Bishops succeed?
A: The Pope is the successor of St. Peter. the Prince of the Apostles; and the Bishops are the Successors of the Apostles, in all that regards the ordinary government of the Church.
68 Q: Must the faithful be in union with their Bishop? A: Yes, all the faithful, ecclesiastic and lay, should be united heart and soul with their Bishop, who is in favor and communion with the Apostolic See.
69 Q: How should the faithful act towards their own Bishop?
A: Each one of the faithful, both ecclesiastic and lay, should revere, love, and honor his own Bishop and render him obedience in all that regards the care of souls and the spiritual government of the diocese.*
There it is in black and white. EVERYTHING the sspx does is in direct opposition to the catechism of the Saint in whose name they dishonor and oppose Jesus