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To: nmh
I could NEVER be Catholic because it violates what God states. I elevate God's Word over the words of ANY fallible mortal or fallible "church". You've just provided an additional example of such a violation.

It only violates what your personal view of Scripture is. You have no teaching authority, but the Church does. And, um, no, don't crack out the old "well the Holy Spirit interprets it for me" line because as far as I can tell, no two Protestant sects are talking to the same Holy Spirit.

If you think there's no room for heirarchy in the Church, you'll have to explain why Jesus bothered separating the Apostles from the rest of the disciples.

Frankly, your view of Sola Scriptura is closer to Islam's view of the Koran than traditional Christianity. In other words, if the Bible is the only source of your faith, then why did Jesus have a ministry at all?

I'm pretty sure you're going to sidestep these questions.

42 posted on 06/21/2006 2:59:12 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever
Me: I could NEVER be Catholic because it violates what God states. I elevate God's Word over the words of ANY fallible mortal or fallible "church". You've just provided an additional example of such a violation.


You: It only violates what your personal view of Scripture is. You have no teaching authority, but the Church does. And, um, no, don't crack out the old "well the Holy Spirit interprets it for me" line because as far as I can tell, no two Protestant sects are talking to the same Holy Spirit.

Me: I don't have a "personal view". I have a Biblical view that bears me out in the Greek and Hebrew. It's as clear as the nose on your face. The "church" you refer to is NOT teaching what God clearly states. It's NOT an "interpretation issue".

You: If you think there's no room for heirarchy in the Church, you'll have to explain why Jesus bothered separating the Apostles from the rest of the disciples.

ALL are sinners. I suppose you also deny that. Christ is the ONLY ONE Who was not a sinner. Abraham sinned. Moses sinned. Paul sinned. Peter sinned. God used these men and women as instruments to convey proper teachings.

Rom.3:10

[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Rom.3:23

[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

That includes ANYONE in a "church" and any human being heading a "church".

You: Frankly, your view of Sola Scriptura is closer to Islam's view of the Koran than traditional Christianity. In other words, if the Bible is the only source of your faith, then why did Jesus have a ministry at all?

Me: When boxed into a cornor why is it people like yourself have to resort to unseemly name calling?

The Bible is the ministry of Jesus. GEESH! The hope was to educate and have folks follow HIM rather than fallible mortals.

You: I'm pretty sure you're going to sidestep these questions.

Me: No, all you did was move away from your original statement that salvation is ONLY from the Catholic Church and works will get you to heaven. Clearly WRONG on both counts.

John.6:44

[44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

It's not through the "Catholic church".

Eph 2:8-9

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Yes, works will NOT get you to heaven. You are saved through faith under grace. It is the gift of God. Please take it while there is time!

I can only hope and pray that repeating God's Word has some impact on you.
45 posted on 06/21/2006 3:37:09 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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