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To: dollars_for_dogma
Verses 53-57 don't exist in a vacuum. They must be examined by what comes before and after it. Plus what do the other Gospels say about it, and how do other Scriptures talk about it. I addressed all of that.

Jhn 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

Jhn 6:48 I am that bread of life.

Jhn 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

Jhn 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

Jhn 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Jhn 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?

Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Jhn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Jhn 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

Jhn 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Jhn 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

Jhn 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.


Verse 47 says (like alot of John) that belief in Jesus gives you everlasting life. Then in verse 58 Jesus reiterates that by one "eating of" Jesus, which is not the same as the eating of manna, one shall live forever.

Only if you wish to analyze these verses in a vacuum can you possibly come to the idea that Jesus is instituting cannibalism. That would violate these scriptures....

"But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." Genesis 9:4

"... No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood." Leviticus 17:12


You choose to put your faith in the teachings of the Catholic Church, while I put my faith in the teachings of the Bible.

Sincerely
117 posted on 06/23/2006 5:36:39 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
"Only if you wish to analyze these verses in a vacuum can you possibly come to the idea that Jesus is instituting cannibalism."

How can you say those verses describe cannibalism? That would be the case if Jesus were just a man.

But the Lord has two natures: human and divine.

The verses preceding are the warm-up to John 6:53-57. Here is where the Lord drives home his point: Partaking of His body and blood are necessary for salvation.

"You choose to put your faith in the teachings of the Catholic Church, while I put my faith in the teachings of the Bible."

Yes I do. It was the Catholic Church that gave us the canon of Sacred Scripture, the Bible.
118 posted on 06/23/2006 7:42:36 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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To: ScubieNuc
"....the idea that Jesus is instituting cannibalism. That would violate these scriptures....

"But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." Genesis 9:4

"... No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood." Leviticus 17:12

Any divine command that comes later modifies a divine command from an earlier time. Jesus declared all foods clean here: Mark 7:19. And his command superseded the earlier command that certain foods be regarded as unclean Leviticus 11:1-8.

When Jesus commands us to drink his blood in John 6:53-57, this command then supersedes any prior command concerning drinking blood. The command against drinking blood, like all of the Old Testament dietary regulations, has passed away.

Colossians 2:17 states: "These are only a shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink."
120 posted on 06/23/2006 8:05:25 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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