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New translation of the Missale Romanum - was this the persuasive argument?
USCCB ^ | June 15, 2006

Posted on 06/16/2006 2:29:27 AM PDT by NYer

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To: AnAmericanMother
What is some of the stuff that Schutte has written?

Numero Uno: Here I Am, Lord. Need me to go on?

21 posted on 06/16/2006 3:00:00 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina

I believe he was Lutheran to begin with. About his subsquent "spiritual journeys," I know nothing. He did all his damage to the Catholic Church fairly early on, in any case. But it really wasn't his fault - it was the fault of the bishops and the presses that pushed his lame work.


22 posted on 06/16/2006 3:33:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: AnAmericanMother

"Here I am, Lord," (or something to that effect). And the truly, truly revolting and jingly, "Table of Plenty."


23 posted on 06/16/2006 3:37:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
He did all his damage to the Catholic Church fairly early on, in any case.

And the effects still rumble on.

Eeeeek on "Table of Plenty". "Sing a New Song" is right up there with most hated songs.

24 posted on 06/16/2006 4:17:15 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina

The problem with these songs is that they, like ad jingles, are "earworms." This is the sort-of-technical term for a tune that gets in your head and which you can only get out by giving it to somebody else. The melodies are always irritating but very simple and based on the "universal melody"(think of nah-naaah-nah-nah), the words are stupid, but they really stick with you.

Marty and Dan could have made big bucks in advertising and it's a pity they didn't go into that and leave the liturgy alone. But then the bishops might have found somebody worse, in any case.


25 posted on 06/16/2006 5:00:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: Carolina

Eh, switch the lyrics in "Here I Am," from "I, the Lord of..." to "You, oh Lord of...", etc., and it's actually pretty decent. Mebbe about a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Sing a New Song is pabulum, but nothing to get offended about... No worse than your typical song from "Barney and Freinds."

"Table of Plenty" is so damned heretical in so many ways, the song could just as well be sung in a witches' coven or a Soviet gulag cafeteria. I can't even count the heresies in a single verse... not minor doctrinal errors with Catholicism... gross, obscene heresies of Christianity... it makes my teeth rattle. AND IT'S ALWAYS DONE AS A COMMUNION SONG!

"Sing a New Song," at least, is usually done as Entrance Antiphon, Recessional, or something like that.


26 posted on 06/16/2006 5:02:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer

>> What is the difference between a terrorist and a liturgist? <<

Hey, no fair not giving us the punchline. What IS the difference between a terrorist and a liturgist? (gulp. I didn't just ask that, did I?)


27 posted on 06/16/2006 5:04:15 PM PDT by dangus
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Ya know, the guy expresses himself not only with clarity and eloquence, but a fair measure of wit; his letter is at once high-minded and, in the good sense of the word, earthy. "Pithy," as a certain Fox News commentator might say. But then, he was chosen because he had a gift for language, wasn't he? =^)


28 posted on 06/16/2006 5:16:27 PM PDT by dangus
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To: klossg

Lemme guess... you like?


29 posted on 06/16/2006 5:17:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Whenever "Sing a New Song" is on the hymnboard, "Shout to the Lord" shows up that same day. They're always bookends, one being the entrance and the other the "sending forth". There is nothing that destroys my sense of peace more than having these two be at the beginning and end of liturgy. (Well, it doesn't help that there's usually a "band" accompanying and the pianist goes hog-wild because it's partying music and everyone around decides they're going to sing like Barbara Streisand and clap along like a gospel choir)


30 posted on 06/16/2006 5:18:30 PM PDT by Carolina
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Ya know, the guy expresses himself not only with clarity and eloquence, but a fair measure of wit; his letter is at once high-minded and, in the good sense of the word, earthy. "Pithy," as a certain Fox News commentator might say. But then, he was chosen because he had a gift for language, wasn't he? =^)

Eloquently spoken.

Perhaps our prayer should be one of thanksgiving that this bishop was elected to serve on the ICEL committee.

31 posted on 06/16/2006 6:14:39 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: dangus

You can negotiate with a terrorist!


32 posted on 06/16/2006 6:26:03 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: dangus
Table of Plenty" is so damned heretical in so many ways, the song could just as well be sung in a witches' coven or a Soviet gulag cafeteria.

LOL! And yes, you're right - the "song leader" brayed it out as a Communion song this very morning. It was a real test of faith to go to Communion with this garbage in the background. Or the foreground, since said song leader has a very loud and off-key voice.

33 posted on 06/16/2006 6:31:29 PM PDT by livius
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To: Petrosius

LOL! Thank you!


34 posted on 06/16/2006 6:34:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Carolina
and clap along like a gospel choir

Nothing is more ludicrous and depressing than seeing a 65+ bald, stringy white deacon waving his hands in the air and shaking his - er - hips as he "processes" down the aisle to this piece. I swear, if I were black, I'd sue him. The condescending racism that underlies this type of Catholic erstaz gospel music absolutely infuriates me. Plus it makes the people who engage in it look like absolute idiots.

35 posted on 06/16/2006 6:36:00 PM PDT by livius
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Never heard "Table of Plenty". But I've heard "Here I Am, Lord" and hated it! We've actually sung it in our parish (to the accompaniment of surreptitious eye-rolling from the choir . . . )


36 posted on 06/16/2006 6:56:51 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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" Numero Uno: Here I Am, Lord. Need me to go on?"

GAG! Pass the Pepto! Fortunately, that and other hideous stuff isn't done at my parish (pray that the new pastor who starts in early July won't start allowing such dreck). But when I've traveled, I've heard this and other schmaltz. Made me feel like I was sitting in the middle of maple-syrup covered cotton candy.
37 posted on 06/19/2006 4:55:10 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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"Here I Am" is one of the worst - not only because it stinks musically (repetitive, banal pop-junk) but because the words are actually anti-God and anti-worship. Look at the number of times the words "I, me, my" appear in the thing. More times than God Himself is actually mentioned, I think.


38 posted on 06/19/2006 6:13:42 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Exactly! When I was travelling and hear "Here I Am" for the first time, besides my gag reflex, my first throught was "this drivel is about "worshipping" me, me, me, not God."


39 posted on 06/19/2006 6:33:02 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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