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COLUMBUS, OH: Episcopal Convention Condemns Bible as 'Anti-Jewish'
VirtueOnline ^ | 6/15/2006 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 06/15/2006 5:10:50 PM PDT by monkapotamus

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1 posted on 06/15/2006 5:10:52 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard considering it is almost totally Jewish to begin with! What is wrong with these people????


2 posted on 06/15/2006 5:11:56 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: monkapotamus

This is satire, right?


3 posted on 06/15/2006 5:12:43 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: ladyinred
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard considering it is almost totally Jewish to begin with! What is wrong with these people????

Liberal political correctness perhaps?

4 posted on 06/15/2006 5:13:41 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: monkapotamus
What the freaking . . . ???

Are these idiots referring to the TaNa"Kh as "anti-Jewish?"

5 posted on 06/15/2006 5:17:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Barukh Kevod HaShem mimMeqomo!)
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To: monkapotamus

This is from The Onion....right?


6 posted on 06/15/2006 5:18:41 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: monkapotamus
Good grief. I happen to be a former Jew who converted to ECUSA just seven years ago. Do you think I would have done so had I found "anti-Jewish" sentiments in the New Testament???

This is nothing but a placement of the camel's note under the tent. If Scripture can be disregarded or marginalized because it is "anti-semitic," it's a small leap to disregard and marginalize the sections of Scripture that speak against homosexuality, divorce, and other sins. It's appalling that the delegates to this Convention were so dumb to fall for this!

This is all so distressing. An Episcopal church brought me to Christ, but I cannot countenance what this Church is doing now. It is rapidly losing its right to even call itself a Church, in my opinion.

7 posted on 06/15/2006 5:19:16 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!!)
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And this is when we're sure that the Episcopal Church has gone completely loopy. Are we supposed to change scripture to the current ideals?
8 posted on 06/15/2006 5:20:49 PM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Masters, remember that I am an ass: though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass!)
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"This is nothing but a placement of the camel's note under the tent. If Scripture can be disregarded or marginalized because it is "anti-semitic," it's a small leap to disregard and marginalize the sections of Scripture that speak against homosexuality, divorce, and other sins."

I think that you hit the nail on the head - exactly my thoughts.

9 posted on 06/15/2006 5:24:51 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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If Scripture can be disregarded or marginalized because it is "anti-semitic," it's a small leap to disregard and marginalize the sections of Scripture that speak against homosexuality, divorce, and other sins

That step has already been taken my brother: Bishop Spong On GC2006
10 posted on 06/15/2006 5:29:44 PM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: monkapotamus

The Bible is not anti-Semitic if correctly understood. This was the problem with the critique of the movie the Passion (actually a critique of the Gospels themselves) as anti-Semitic.


11 posted on 06/15/2006 5:32:48 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: monkapotamus

Hmmmm....one has to wonder what they're going to use to preach from now that they've condemned the scripture and their own liturgy. Hallmark greeting cards perhaps?


12 posted on 06/15/2006 5:42:56 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: monkapotamus

As is often the case, issues of sexuality are mere smokescreens that the Enemy uses to distract us from the deeper problems. This occurs to us both individually and collectively. Hence the person who thinks their real problem is an addiction to pornography may really be struggling, on a much deeper level, with issues of trust and obedience to the Lord. Collectively we find the titillation of discussing same-sex marriages and gay bishops to be more interesting than what are, without question, far more serious and foreboding concerns.

So it is with the Episcopal Church. We are riveted on the information coming out of Columbus and keep waiting for a decision on the homosexuality issue. In the meantime, bigger problems receive far less attention.

52% of the House of Bishops believe the Bible is "anti-Jewish" (at least the New Testament). But it is worse in the House of Deputies where the resolution passed by 68%. The bottom line here is that the problems of the ECUSA have little or nothing to do with anti-Semitism or homosexuality. The bottom line is that more than half of the leadership of the Episcopal church believes that the Bible is subject to man's judgement and not the other way around. They have turned Biblical authority on its head, placing themselves on God's throne. As it says in Romans, "professing themselves to be wise they have become fools". It is only then that, as Chapter 1 continues, that the issue of homosexuality is raised. Homsexuality follows the real problem, it does not precede it.

If the ECUSA chooses to pay lip service to the Windsor Report (and at this point I fear it will be only lip service) it will only be because collectively they do not have the courage to stand apart from the Anglican Communion and form their own non-Christian denomination. At this point I wish they would simply allow the ECUSA to dissolve, the orthodox remaining in communion with world-wide Anglicans and the rest joining the pagans. It is heartbreaking, but that is the choice the progressives are making.


13 posted on 06/15/2006 5:50:28 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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There are some Religion Forum regulars who believe the same thing. If they haven't already posted to this thread, I'm sure they will be along shortly.


14 posted on 06/15/2006 6:22:54 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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15 posted on 06/16/2006 4:09:31 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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"There are some Religion Forum regulars who believe the same thing"

Pure, unadulterated nonsense. I have never read anything of the sort. (Although, now, I am sure a certain "Catholic deacon" will emerge to state such a thing...)


16 posted on 06/16/2006 5:45:04 PM PDT by dangus
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What's with the quotation marks? Is he not really a deacon?


17 posted on 06/16/2006 6:50:44 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Oh, dear. I am so sorry that you're enduring this.

We were in a very liberal ECUSA diocese, couldn't stand it any more, became Catholic (we were very "high church".) And I was sixth-generation Episcopal/Anglican, it was a big decision to leave. But the leadership has gone stark staring mad.

For a long time the loons at 815 didn't affect the folks in the pews, you could sit in your own conservative/orthodox parish and ignore the national church, but those days are over. The national church controls the seminaries, so once an orthodox rector retires, you're done. That's what happened to our former parish.

But we're very glad we crossed the Tiber. The more I read and learn about the Catholic church, the more I wish we had made this move long ago.

18 posted on 06/16/2006 6:54:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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I don't know if he is or he isn't. I know he claims to be.


19 posted on 06/16/2006 7:00:47 PM PDT by dangus
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20 posted on 06/16/2006 7:15:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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