Posted on 06/15/2006 2:51:17 AM PDT by Cavalcabo
On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters on a boat cruising Pittsburgh's rivers.
On that afternoon, three women in vestments will lay their hands on the heads of the 12 women and anoint their hands with oil during an ordination ceremony that will be the first of its kind in the United States.
Among the participants is Joan Clark Houk, 65, of McCandless, who with seven other women are answering a call to be priests; the other four are candidates to be deacons.
It will be the fourth such ceremony in the world since 2002, all unrecognized by the Vatican. The women are part of a growing international movement to push for women's ordination.
The Women's Ordination Conference, based in Fairfax, Va., will announce today its support of the Pittsburgh ceremony, which will be held aboard the Gateway Clipper boat Majestic. Pittsburgh was selected because of its central location.
In a three-page letter dated May 9, Mrs. Houk, a member of St. Alexis in McCandless, advised Bishop Donald Wuerl of her plans. She has received no response. Mrs. Houk also sent a copy of the letter to all 360 priests in the diocese.
"It is a sin for the Church to discriminate against women and to blame God for it," Mrs. Houk wrote.
The Rev. Ronald Lengwin, spokesman for the Diocese of Pittsburgh, said the church "has determined that the ordination of males is a part of the faith handed down by Christ through his apostles and therefore the church is not free to change it. Ordination to the priesthood can only be conferred on a male."
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I have no clue what you are saying, so I do wish I had the pic of the bunny with a pancake on its head.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the question refers to who takes St. Paul's writing as utterly serious. If there are Muslims within that number, then that's news to me. My own expectation would be they might consider them advisory, at most.
Otherwise, exactly what did you mean then about some people not taking every word St. Paul spoke as the Word of God, please?
Thanks for the remarks and viewpoint.
Yes, I'm aware of that misconception.
This is Ashtoreth worship all over again. The "godess" and "priestess" thing is as old as Babylon (or older). If God prohibited it then, why do they think He wouldn't prohibit it now? (Rhetorical question) They don't believe in God, they believe in Ashtoreth; they just don't know it - but would if they ever opened their Bibles.
I think I'm going to be sick. That was just so wrong. I can't find the right words to explain my absolute disgust with what I just saw. I will pray for all those women and the children they bring with them.
...of the river Styx, which feeds into the Lake of Fire.
The Bishop could contact the local fishwrap and set the rcord straight about Ordination, Jurisdiction, Obedience, Canon Law, Magisterial Taeching re women and the priests etc etc and by his education and example start to revivify the Faith
ipso facto, excommunicated.
Why do they keep doing this on boats? They seem to think it imparts some sort of shield from the Church.
The media does keep approaching this as if the women are actually priests. Then again, anything anti-Catholic is part of the media's agenda.
It is impossible for women to be priests in the Roman Catholic Church. Impossible. Even if the Pope himself ordained them they would still not be priests.
It used to be thought that the Episcopal church and the Roman Catholic church were the most similar because of the apostolic succession, apostate though it is, and the virtually identical masses. Now it appears that even with the wide liturgical gulf, the Baptists and the Catholics may be the closest brothers because of the stand on morality issues such as right to life, and innovation like women priestesses and homosexual pandering.
So you don't take the bible as the revealed word of God?
Mohammad, on the other hand, said he was given "dictation" ~ that the Koran was literally an identical copy to a Koran kept in Heaven, by God, for the purpose of providing mankind with rules.
I would suppose you probably didn't understand my references, so there they are.
I suppose you can believe St. Paul merely passed on a dictated message from God, but that's not the Christian viewpoint on the matter of how it came about that mankind received sacred scriptures.
Then why did you express concern over a "goddess rosary"? It's certainly nothing to get excited about. Even Moslems use these things. I believe the theory underlying them is that they serve as a memnonic.
Issues of faith and morals, not those related to church governance, are the common thread used to identify Christian bodies. Catholics fool only themselves if they think the Anglicans are like them because of their priests, bishops, archbishop and centralized ownership of church property.
I believe the Bible contains the revealed Word of God? Don't you?
Well, that wasn't what I said, nor what I implied. But because we actually agree, I'm going to simply drop the whole conversation.
Thanks.
These woman are not Catholic, They are not Roman, Byzantine, Melkite, or any other Catholic in union with the See of Peter. They are heretics, blasphemers and daugthers of rebellion.
The press is so Anti Catholic it jumps at any chance to show how " Catholics" are defying that mean ole, homophobic, misogynist, anti choice fanatic the Pope and all his reactionary goosestepping cohorts. ( their view not mine)
I for one am long past sick of it.
Why would women want to be ordained in the first place? To be irreverent, cause controversy and strife, assert their "Independence"?
YES.
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