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To: jo kus
It's not my fault the Catholic church is slow in recognizing the Trinity. It's been in the Bible all along. If ONLY they would read it and take it seriously. My verses came from the Bible and it didn't take me hundreds of years to figure out what was meant.

""Baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" does not automatically lead to the idea of three hypostasis and one ousia! This took the Church hundreds of years to theologically define. You don't realize how Catholic you already are, do you? There are numerous heretics who THOUGHT they understood the Bible differently and came up with different ideas on who God is. Yours is the Catholic/Orthodox concept from Scriptures AND Apostolic Tradition."

I do not acknowledge your "traditions" or fabricated "apostolic tradition" since it too is unBiblical. If ONLY you're read the Bible instead of being so easily mislead.

No, I am NOT Catholic by any stretch of the imagination. It would be impossible for me to be Catholic. My beliefs are from the Bible. Catholic beliefs pick and chose from the Bible and add to it.
68 posted on 06/14/2006 3:10:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh
It's not my fault the Catholic church is slow in recognizing the Trinity. It's been in the Bible all along. If ONLY they would read it and take it seriously. My verses came from the Bible and it didn't take me hundreds of years to figure out what was meant.

The reason it didn't take you hundreds of years to figure it out is because the Church had already defined it for non-Catholics.

It didn't take the Church hundreds of years to figure it out either. They already knew it, but had to set down definitions to combat heresies, such as the Arian heresy.

The Trinity

73 posted on 06/14/2006 4:29:31 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: nmh
It's not my fault the Catholic church is slow in recognizing the Trinity. It's been in the Bible all along. If ONLY they would read it and take it seriously. My verses came from the Bible and it didn't take me hundreds of years to figure out what was meant. You rely on the Catholic Church's interpretations, whether you acknowledge it or not. Clearly, one can (and many have) NOT read a "Trinity of Persons" in the Godhead by reading the Bible alone. If you think so, post the verses and I can guarantee you I can give other interpretations. The Bible is NOT a systematic theology book, starting with "Chapter One - The Trinity". The book is to be properly used by the Church.

I do not acknowledge your "traditions" or fabricated "apostolic tradition" since it too is unBiblical.

I disagree. I think Sola Scriptura is unBiblical, and Sola Fide is AGAINST the Bible.

No, I am NOT Catholic by any stretch of the imagination. It would be impossible for me to be Catholic. My beliefs are from the Bible. Catholic beliefs pick and chose from the Bible and add to it.

You are Catholic and you don't realize it, to the degree that we share common beliefs, such as Jesus Christ is our Savior, a Catholic belief...

Regards

125 posted on 06/15/2006 5:04:19 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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