[Dr. Eckleburg]

You have therefore put yourself in the position of teaching men not to follow commandments unless they can see a clear benefit to themselves or to God. So, yes, I'm accusing you of attempting to discourage people from obeying the whole Torah, since you have made pragmatism, not God's Word, the basis of your walk with God.

I've rarely read a more specious post (except for maybe your last one...and the one before that.)

[Buggman]

I just quoted Harley. I had previously engaged this point earlier in the thread, and he didn't answer it. Ergo, your accusation of speciousness is but sound and fury, signifying nothing. It's not even an argument that can be addressed.