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To: colorcountry

Nobody has EVER suggested that Mary was divine.

But by the same token, why is it so difficult to believe that God bestowed Salvation on Mary prior to her birth? Catholicism does not contend that Mary didn't require a Savior, just that her Salvation preceeded ours.

Finally, were Adam and Eve conceived free from sin (i.e. in an immaculate state)?


158 posted on 06/15/2006 10:07:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
But by the same token, why is it so difficult to believe that God bestowed Salvation on Mary prior to her birth?

Not difficult to believe at all.

Catholicism does not contend that Mary didn't require a Savior, just that her Salvation preceeded ours.

Yes she was saved (salvation) before I was saved. But I already am saved (salvation) even before I die.

Finally, were Adam and Eve conceived free from sin (i.e. in an immaculate state)?

This is language I do not recognize (am not familiar with). By concieved to you mean created? Were they created free from sin?...The answer is yes....then came the fall and from that time on, we were all born into sin....even Mary (because she is not God incarnate) But none of these questions have anything to do with whether or not either of us have faith in Jesus Christ, or whether or not we will be granted Grace and therefore salvation. In our basic beliefs in the trintiy, we are one, we are the body of Christ IMHO.

168 posted on 06/15/2006 10:24:21 AM PDT by colorcountry (Life isn't fair, it isn't unfair either. It just "is.")
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