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What Happens After Death?
Goodnews Magazine ^ | 1997 | Various

Posted on 06/11/2006 4:21:52 PM PDT by DouglasKC

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1 posted on 06/11/2006 4:21:57 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Bump for a later read.


2 posted on 06/11/2006 4:25:25 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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What happens when you die? Well, you, um, die hoping you get to be in the first resurrection.


3 posted on 06/11/2006 4:31:40 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: DouglasKC

Some of us get promoted, some begin their torment.


4 posted on 06/11/2006 5:16:59 PM PDT by Cvengr
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What Happens After Death?

WHO KNOWS?

I'm pretty sure though, that just before kicking off.....

..........people crap their pants.


That's what Mattt and Trey told me................


5 posted on 06/11/2006 5:19:37 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Stop being good Republicans. Start being good Americans.")
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To: DouglasKC
The worms crawl in
The worms crawl out.

The worms play pinochle on your snout.

L

6 posted on 06/11/2006 5:22:21 PM PDT by Lurker ("They still see you as the infidel, the other, and they'll still kill you. " Mark Steyn)
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To: DouglasKC

Taxes.


7 posted on 06/11/2006 5:37:49 PM PDT by relee
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To: DouglasKC

"If I knew God I'd be Him."


8 posted on 06/11/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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The writer has a problem with soul annhilation in his definition of hell. Rev.19:20 says that the antichrist and false prophet are thrown in the lake of fire and brimstone. In Rev. 20:10 it says after a thousand years Satan is thrown in the same place and the antichrist and false prophet are still alive and suffering.


9 posted on 06/11/2006 6:23:32 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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In Rev. 20:10 it says after a thousand years Satan is thrown in the same place and the antichrist and false prophet are still alive and suffering.

The original Greek does not say that....in fact the word "are" has been added.

10 posted on 06/11/2006 6:38:50 PM PDT by Diego1618
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The original Greek in Rev. 20:10 is the third person plural future passive indicative which translates "they (Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet) shall be tormented day and night forever and ever" that is why are is more accurate than were.
11 posted on 06/11/2006 6:48:32 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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"they (Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet) shall be tormented day and night forever and ever" that is why are is more accurate than were.

If one were to believe in the "Pagan concept" of soul immortality I can see where "are" would be a better translation. I believe the "Weymouth" translation renders it correctly by saying "were".....or had been. Nevertheless....the word "are" (or "were") in the original manuscripts does not appear.

12 posted on 06/11/2006 7:14:17 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
Read the original Greek for Rev. 20:10. It speaks of three people, Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet. The Greek then says "they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." It is the third person plural, future tense, passive voice, and indicative mood. There is nothing "pagan" about it. The scripture plainly states that Satan and two humans will suffer torment eternally and then says those whose names are not found in the Lamb's Book of Life will suffer the same punishment. Are is correctly understood. The "eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die" is the classic "pagan" view of annhilation.
13 posted on 06/11/2006 7:28:55 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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Read the original Greek for Rev. 20:10. It speaks of three people, Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet

I have read many of your posts and respect your intellect, but you of course realize that Satan is a "Spirit being". His torment will go on forever. On the other hand, humans thrown into the Lake of Fire will have a different kind of torment. That would be eternal separation from God. This is also called the second death [Rev. 20:14]. The dead are aware of nothing [Ecclesiastes 9:5].

Let me ask you a question. A man and a woman have children who turn out to be incorrigible sinners and unrepentant. The man and his wife, both God fearing and just, have failed in their efforts to convince their offspring of the error of their ways and you believe that a merciful God would allow these parents to eternally witness their children burning in a "Hellfire"? I think a merciful God, knowing that these children would be forever unrepentant, would destroy them in the Lake of Fire along with the Beast and False Prophet. I don't think a merciful God would allow these parents eternal anguish.

14 posted on 06/11/2006 7:58:06 PM PDT by Diego1618
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I can appreciate your feelings about this however Rev. 21:4 says that sort of sentimentality will be no more. Believing parents, just like the believing martyrs, will understand the just and righteous judgments of God and worship Him for it. Satan is a spirit being and the antichrist and false prophet are humans. That does not take away from the clear and explicit statement that they, not just Satan, will endure torment for ever and ever. Rev. 20:15 says that all those not found in the book of life will suffer the same fate; those are humans also.


15 posted on 06/11/2006 8:09:50 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Diego1618
If one were to believe in the "Pagan concept" of soul immortality

Indeed, the immortality of the soul does make for some creative scriptural interpretation. How do you square 2 resurrections and judgement with going to heaven right when you die? Jesus was/is our example. He died and was resurrected. If when He died, His soul ascended, then why did he get resurrected in the exact same body with the same wounds and ask for some grub? And, if souls are immortal, then death is irrelevant and the following scriptures are fables, and Jesus is a liar:

Joh 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Joh 11:12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Joh 11:13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Joh 11:14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Mat 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Mat 22:33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

16 posted on 06/11/2006 8:14:59 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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I can appreciate your feelings about this however Rev. 21:4 says that sort of sentimentality will be no more.

Revelation 21:4 indeed says that the old order of things has passed.....except, I guess, in your ever burning "Hellfire".

The wicked will experience eternal death because death is the most merciful fate a loving God could impose on those who insist on breaking his law and reaping the resulting unhappiness. They will be put out of their misery and not make others miserable either. [Revelation 21:8][Psalm 37:20] [Romans 6:23]

17 posted on 06/11/2006 8:33:54 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: DouglasKC

"I walked down a long corridor, and into a room...and they had me take a number..."


18 posted on 06/11/2006 8:50:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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19 posted on 06/11/2006 8:58:16 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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From the above link "The Biblical View of Hell", comes this statement:

"An examination of all the words translated "hell" shows that the traditional view of an ever-burning place of torment where the wicked are punished for eternity cannot be found in the Bible."

Mark chapter 9, 42 and 43:

"And if thy hand scandalize thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life, maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into unquenchable fire: Where there worm dieth not, and the fire is not extinguished.

Next.

20 posted on 06/11/2006 9:26:01 PM PDT by reductio
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