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To: Kolokotronis; MMkennedy
(being declared righteous by God)

My understanding of the (Eastern) Orthodox position here is not that it's a matter of declaration; it's a matter of being, correct? I am a layman not well educated as to the particulars of "sanctification" -- does this approach theosis (as described it seems to)?

6 posted on 06/08/2006 7:16:36 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: sionnsar

Yes, you are correct. That was a misstatement on my part. For Romans and Orthodox, I think, one is declared righteous only when one is righteous whereas for an evangelical, one is declared righteous on the basis of the alien righteousness of Christ.


7 posted on 06/08/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: sionnsar; MMkennedy

" My understanding of the (Eastern) Orthodox position here is not that it's a matter of declaration; it's a matter of being, correct? I am a layman not well educated as to the particulars of "sanctification" -- does this approach theosis (as described it seems to)?"

Its a grace driven process.

"'Can a man take fire into his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?' (Prov. 6:27) says the wise Solomon. And I say: can he, who has in his heart the Divine fire of the Holy Spirit burning naked, not be set on fire, not shine and glitter and not take on the radiance of the Deity in the degree of his purification and penetration by fire? For penetration by fire follows upon purification of the heart, and again purification of the heart follows upon penetration by fire, that is, inasmuch as the heart is purified, so it receives Divine grace, and again inasmuch as it receives grace, so it is purified. When this is completed (that is, purification of heart and acquisition of grace have attained their fullness and perfection), through grace a man becomes wholly a god." +Symeon the New Theologian


10 posted on 06/09/2006 4:07:55 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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