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To: Theoden
I have a question for you.
Why do you constantly quote Old Testament when dealing with other Christians here?
Christians hold the Old Testament fulfilled,
and do not hold it as being authoritative like we do the New Testament.
One can interpret and quote Scripture into saying anything that they want it to say.
I am not being snide or anything like that,
I genuinely want to understand why it is that you still hold the Torah to be authoritative,
and yet are a Christian.
I do not understand the Messianic views.

Thanks

18 posted on 06/08/2006 7:34:14 AM MDT by Theoden

Y'shua is the "Word of G-d". Is He not?

All scripture that was quoted by Y'shua was from the Tanach.

Did Y'shua say ignore the Tanach? I don't think so.

Y'shua rebuked the Pharisees for ignoring the Tanach and using man-made Tradition instead.

I believe that Y'shua is the Mashiach as for-told in G-d's Holy Word: the Tanach.

b'shem Y'shua
39 posted on 06/08/2006 9:17:37 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Hosea 6:6 I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings)
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To: XeniaSt
Y'shua is the "Word of G-d". Is He not?

Absolutely! He is the word made flesh.

All scripture that was quoted by Y'shua was from the Tanach.

Correct

Did Y'shua say ignore the Tanach? I don't think so

Right, he did not come to undo the laws, but to fulfill them.

Y'shua rebuked the Pharisees for ignoring the Tanach and using man-made Tradition instead.

Yes, however, he was in the process of fulfilling scripture, and obviously would not be following the New Testament in addition to that, because he did not yet rise from the dead and tell his apostles to spread the good news to all nations. That's what my question pertained to, and I admit, I should have phrased it much better. I was wondering why you seemingly place a greater emphasis on OT rather than the NT. I believe they are BOTH authoritative, divinely inspired, and are the Word of God, and I place the greater emphasis on NT, while I still honor the OT at the same time.

I believe that Y'shua is the Mashiach as for-told in G-d's Holy Word: the Tanach.

As do I, and I believe that Christ, one in being with God the Father, through the Holy Trinity, established a new covenant, as symbolized in the splitting of the temple shroud, and when Christ said that the only way to the Lord is through him. To me, that diminishes, yet doesn't invalidate, the Old Testament.

Now, I also have to admit here, I have not read up on this in my own catechism, and my Catholic brothers and sisters can set me straight if I am incorrect in this, or if I am deviating from the beliefs of my faith. I submit to the Body of Christ, and I accept all of her teaching.

The last thing I want is an argument, that's not my intention, and of course, nothing is personal. Just an honest question to you. Thanks again.

54 posted on 06/08/2006 10:38:18 AM PDT by Theoden (Why do you seek the cup of Christ, is it for his glory, or for yours?-Indiana Jones The Last Crusade)
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