[tenn2005]

I claim as much good sense as you do and I have studied the Scriptures for years. My sincere conclusion is that the Catholic faith is in complete conformity with them and that it is the Protestants who have an erroneous understanding of the Bible. Is the Holy Spirit failing me?

Evidently

[wmfights]

What I'm finding interesting is how quickly things changed after the Apostles died. During the period the Apostles lived decisions were made as a group after praying for guidance. When the Apostles were alive there was no one "super-Apostle". However, after the Apostles died you see the early leaders of the church immediately begin to consolidate power. I suppose it is a typical human failing to want to "control" everything including outcomes.

[Petrosius]

How can you be sure that it I whom the Holy Spirit is failing and not you? And why would the Holy Spirit abandon me, the entire Church for 1500 years and the billion+ Catholics in the Church today?