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To: tenn2005
Nice try but that passage was written to Timothy who was an evangelist, not a Elder/Bishop, and referred to the miraculous gifts of the Spirit which he had received from the hands of Paul.

Where did you get such a silly idea? Timothy wrote not one of the gospels nor even one of the epistles. In 1 Timothy 4:14 we read:

Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood.
Thus the grace that was given to Timothy was not from a personal charism of Paul but from the office of priest. Paul clearly sets up the offices of bishop, priest and deacon. Being offices they are endowed with authority, otherwise they would be empty titles. In Titus 1:5 we read:
For this cause I left thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and shouldest ordain priests in every city, as also I appointed thee.
So we see that Paul also appointed Titus a priest and instructed him to do likewise. Thus the office of priest is gained by way of ordination from another and not by the congregation. Its authority descends from the hands of the apostles.
150 posted on 06/10/2006 11:06:55 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Where did you get such a silly idea? Timothy wrote not one of the gospels nor even one of the epistles. In 1 Timothy 4:14 we read:...

Better read my post again. I did not say that Timothy wrote a Gospel, rather that I Timothy was a letter written to him by the Apostle Paul.

Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood.

It is interesting to notice that you and the Catholic Church, in their own version of the Bible, have changed the word eldership to priesthood Thus the grace that was given to Timothy was not from a personal charism of Paul but from the office of priest.

Better read II Tim 1:6. Timothy as well as Titus got their miraculous power of the Holy Spirit from Paul not some priesthood. Also, both Timothy and Titus were Evangelist (not priest) and they appointed Elders/Bishops (not priest). By your twisted logic you have priest appointing priest for the task of appointing priest.

160 posted on 06/10/2006 12:57:09 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is merely an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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