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To: Nabber
Absolutely the best proof of the Resurrection: the 12 would not go out into the world to spread the Word, just to face death by stoning or by crucifixion for something they knew was a lie. Therefore it was the Truth. That proves it all.

Where's the proof other than heresay? There is none. You must have missed the following in the debate:

And an earlier point that Bill made was that the disciples were all willing to die for their faith. I didn’t hear one piece of evidence for that. I hear that claim a lot, but having read every Christian source from the first five hundred years of Christianity, I’d like him to tell us what the piece of evidence is that the disciples died for their belief in the resurrection.

16 posted on 06/06/2006 8:07:24 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

**Where's the proof other than heresay? There is none.**

Well, look at it this way. When Israel came out of Egypt they were allowed 40 years to die off because they disobeyed God and he would not allow them to go into the Holy Land.
After 40 years a new generation went into the land.

When Christ was crucified the people of Israel were given 40 years. Then the TEMPLE was destroyed, the people scattered and God had a new generation of believers for his people.
Israel has been without a temple, priesthood and sacrifice for almost 2000 years, longer than when they had the Ark of the Covanent.
What better proof does one need than that God has rejected a people called out of Egypt for a people that believes in him!


18 posted on 06/06/2006 9:04:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
like him to tell us what the piece of evidence is that the disciples died for their belief in the resurrection.

Stephen got stoned. We also have the records of Christian persecution and death under Roman rulers such as Diocletian and Nero.

JM
27 posted on 06/07/2006 8:43:53 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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