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To: dukeman
There is very good, historical proof of the five facts listed at the end of my post #61, much of it from oustside the Gospels.

With David Koresh, a large group of people believed he was Jesus.

You and I apply reason to determine he was likely *not*. Yet you choose not to use the same reasoning when considering the Jesus story.

There is no extra-biblical information "proving" that Jesus wasn't just like Koresh, or Jim Jones, or that Heaven's Gate guy.

When Christians start applying the same kind of reason power to the story of Jesus, then maybe I'd be more inclined to believe you have something.

Don't get me wrong -- most of my family are Christian, I was raised Roman Catholic. Christians are good people, generally. I do not mind at all that ya'll have beliefs I don't share.

But this idea of "proof" of Jesus simply is not true. And when I hear ya'll claim there *is* proof, it damages your credibility in my eyes.

145 posted on 06/11/2006 9:17:37 AM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
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To: Dominic Harr
There is no extra-biblical information "proving" that Jesus wasn't just like Koresh, or Jim Jones, or that Heaven's Gate guy.

When Christians start applying the same kind of reason power to the story of Jesus, then maybe I'd be more inclined to believe you have something.

Which of the five historical facts in post #61 do you doubt and why?

180 posted on 06/12/2006 6:06:52 AM PDT by dukeman
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