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To: tgambill
Are we now into the secret little boys club of definitions? Definitions that are not dictionary definitions but *definitions as scientists use them* that are not found in the dictionaries I've checked online. Talk about intellectual dishonesty. Make up a special definition for a word and carry on a discussion with someone knowing that they are using the word in common usage; and then when they use the dictionary definition of a word as virtually everybody else does and understands it to be, tell them they are wrong and sneer at them with phrases like: *Learn what you're talking about first. Go back and get a real education then we can have a real discussion*. This is almost as bad as sending people to Wikipedia to back up your statements. It smacks of elitism and intellectual snobbery.
652 posted on 06/19/2006 4:49:00 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

no, we fight fire with fire......do unto others, etc.....the non-seecuter word is a trademark of his. I am also being a snob in that this is the way to deal....

He is a genuine disinformation tech. He follows about 4 of the 25 main techniques used by disinformation tech....

Non sequitur may refer to:

Non sequitur (logic), a logical fallacy
Non sequitur (absurdism), a comment which is humorously absurd or has no relation to the comment it follows
Non Sequitur (comic strip), the comic strip
Non Sequitur (ensemble), the musical ensemble at The Walden School

Quote:

"This article does not do justice to the humorous sense of the meaning of non sequitur. We need to split it into two articles, say, "Non sequitur (logic)" and "Non sequitur (absurdist humor)". The two meanings are apples and oranges, really, and share only marginal attributes.

I must admit it was an education to me to read about this term's association with formal logic; it reminded me of a meaning I had long forgotten. However, many links to this page are from articles where the link implies you'll be reading about humor. For example, when Zippy the Pinhead -- one of whose defining characteristics is his use of non sequiturs -- says "Are we having fun yet?", any reader hoping to understand this will gain absolutely nothing from reading about logical fallacies. Zippy is hard enough to understand. Besides, I still have a package of refrigerated cookie dough in my freezer.

I'll split this page into two tonight and do a bit of work cleaning up links and redirects; I hope others with interest in both aspects of this term will appreciate it and give some attention to both articles.

And if there are additional senses of meaning I'm missing (except for the usual use as proper names), please bring them to my attention."


654 posted on 06/19/2006 5:31:57 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: metmom

I told him that your post was logical and was in context. he said it was non-secuiter or non-cuter, whatever, therefore, I figured that it was opposite of what he said, so it must be "secuiter"....the opposite of non-secuiter...:)) lolol...


655 posted on 06/19/2006 5:34:00 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: metmom
Definitions that are not dictionary definitions but *definitions as scientists use them* that are not found in the dictionaries I've checked online.

I did not claim that the definitions as scientists use them are not found in dictionaries. You are either misinterpreting or misrepresenting my statement.

I am referring to situations where words used by scientists have multiple definitions in a dictionary. In such cases, only one definition applies in the context used by scientists. It is neither logical nor honest to argue against a statenent by switching the definition of a word with another definition also found in the dictionary.

This is almost as bad as sending people to Wikipedia to back up your statements.

I provided a reference to an online dictionary that employs definitions from several respected and frequently referenced real-world dictionaries to support my original statement regarding the meaning of the word "validation". It was tgambill who referenced Wikipedia regarding the definition of the word.
661 posted on 06/19/2006 6:25:48 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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