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If so, then you are mistaken.

Isn't it hard to be right all the time? I mean really, everybody on this thread is *mistaken* in some way or another except one, apparently.

The mechanism ultimately occurs as a result of the fundamental properties of the universe.

So where did the fundamental properties of the universe come from? This goes back to assuming that order can exist without intelligence behind it. One cannot use the conclusion one is trying to *prove* the basis for the argument to prove it. The fact that there is order in the universe is not proof that intelligence is not required for order, because one would have to know that there was no intelligence behind the universe in order for that argument to work and no one can know it. Precedent is that order and complexity require intelligence; there is no precedent that supports that order can arise without intelligence.

The result of environmental conditions upon genetic diversity is not random.

And what exactly does that mean? Mutations occur randomly, the environmental changes that occur are ramdon, so how is any part of the process not random?

Isn't it hard to be right all the time? I mean really, everybody on this thread is *mistaken* in some way or another except one, apparently.

I have been corrected on subjects in previous discussions. I am willing to listen to explanations of why statements that I make are in error.

So where did the fundamental properties of the universe come from?

I do not know. Lacking any evidence on the subject, I draw no conclusions.

This goes back to assuming that order can exist without intelligence behind it.

You have not demonstrated that order is required. Given a lack of information on the subject, the safest assumption is to make no assumptions of extraneous entities.

One cannot use the conclusion one is trying to *prove* the basis for the argument to prove it.

I have claimed no proof. I believe that I have stated this previously, so I do not understand your assertion that I am attempting to prove anything.

The fact that there is order in the universe is not proof that intelligence is not required for order, because one would have to know that there was no intelligence behind the universe in order for that argument to work and no one can know it.

I do not claim to have proven that no intelligence exists behind the order of the universe. I only state that thus far no evidence has been presented to show that intelligence is behind the order of the universe.

Precedent is that order and complexity require intelligence; there is no precedent that supports that order can arise without intelligence.

Your conclusion is not logical. You are claiming that there can exist no known situation where order occurs without intelligence as a means of ruling out all instances where order occurs without any apparent intelligence. You have only determined that it is impossible to establish prescedent, because the vast majority of cases where order occurs are situations where there is no apparent intelligence but also no means of ruling out intelligence, thus there is no means of drawing any conclusion.

And what exactly does that mean? Mutations occur randomly, the environmental changes that occur are ramdon, so how is any part of the process not random?

Natural selection is not itself the process of mutation or environmental shifting. Natural selection is the result of varied organisms having varied reproductive successes based upon heriditable traits within a specific environment