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To: truthfinder9; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl; Alex Murphy

Sorry, but those who wish to read it as "age" are the ones who ignore the data.

Of some 2200 usages of "day" in scripture, some 1800 of them refer to a regular old day(s). Most of the remainder are some derivation of "day."

Roughly 8 usages of those 2200+ have to do with "age."

The nature of the story being told in Genesis 1 does not suggest other than a normal day.....evening & morning were day one...two...three....etc.

I understand from some other post that you might be some variety of theistic evolutionist. Is that correct?



154 posted on 06/01/2006 8:37:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins; truthfinder9; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl
A thought just occured to me, prompted by Xzins' comment about "theistic evolution". It sounds as if some of you are far better read than I, and thus may know the answer to this:

Are there any theistic evolutionists who also hold to the global Noahic flood view?

155 posted on 06/01/2006 8:51:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; Alex Murphy

"I understand from some other post that you might be some variety of theistic evolutionist. Is that correct?"

No, I'm not sure where you got that. Not from my posts anyway.

"The nature of the story being told in Genesis 1 does not suggest other than a normal day.....evening & morning were day one...two...three....etc."

Not true at all. For example:

The Hebrew for the phrase “evening and morning” or “evening, and there was morning” has usages not limited to 24-hour days. There are numerous usages in the Bible that this phrase, or variants of it, refer to continuous processes or activities. Exodus 18:13, 27:21, Leviticus 24:2-3 and Daniel 8:14,26 all use this phrase in a context of something that occurs on a continual basis over more than one 24-hour day.

The attaching of an ordinal (such as “first”) or other appendage (such as “long”) to day does not always indicate a 24-hour day. See Zechariah 14:7, which uses “one day” or “a day” depending on the translation and Hosea 6:2. Scholars have long interpreted the use of day in these prophetic verses as meaning years or longer periods. There is no good reason to dismiss these examples simply because they are considered prophecy. In 1 Samuel 7:2, the word for day is translated as “long time” or “the time was long” and refers to twenty years. In Deuteronomy 10:10, day is translated as “the first time” and refers to forty days. In 1 Chronicles 29:27 the word for day is translated as “the time” and refers to forty years (some translations leave it out since the context makes it repetitive).

etc.

But beyond the Hebrew, consider these:

The third day must have been longer than 24-hours, since the text indicates a process that would take a year or longer. On this day, the text specifically states that the land produced plants and trees. After they were produced, the text refers to seed bearing fruit being produced by these trees. Any horticulturist knows that fruit-bearing trees require several years to mature before they produce fruit. Note the text states that the land produced these trees (indicating a natural process) [not evolutionary processes, but normal plant processes] and that it all occurred on the third day. Obviously, such a “day” could not have been only 24 hours long.

We see that when God rested, he ceased creating and each “day” previous to that was closed out. The seventh day is not closed out like the others. As each of the previous days represent eras before man (and the sixth includes early man), the “seventh day” is mankind’s entire existence up to and including the present. The Bible speaks of the Sabbath not being closed out (as indicated in Hebrews 4) until the new creation when God starts creating again (Revelation 21). Either the days preceding the seventh are 24-hour days, making Genesis 2:2 in error, or they are long periods of time, making the verses consistent and correct.

etc.




163 posted on 06/01/2006 5:14:10 PM PDT by truthfinder9
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