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To: Celtjew Libertarian; Robwin; microgood
re 43: If nothing else, Atheism most certainly has preachers -- Those who proclaim (not just believe) there is no god and that religious is foolishness ... fit that category. To a certain extent, the Darwin fish, even if in response to the Christian fish is taking on many of the aspects of public display of piety, complete with religious symbol. As for the rest, well, it depends on the denomination {are you referring to sects, denominations or cults?} of atheism. Certainly communism fit many of the descriptions of an atheist faith and had many of the attributes you list.

Surely you are joking, Mr. Celtjew

Atheists may have advocates, but atheists have no churches from which to preach and they get no tithes. Atheists get no tax-exemption, get no parsonage, no priory exemption on their taxes.

You are just silly if you think atheists have equal treatment to all the preachers, priests, pastors. Please identify atheists who get $300,000,000 per year like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and Gary Bower and Chris Dobson. Do you know any single atheist "advocate/preacher" with such a lavish lifestyle and private jets and command of TV and radio access?

I note your quick way to link a non-belief to communism. Sheesh, you missed out nazism.

There are no atheists promoting a disrespect for religion via meaningless public displays of piety.

Atheists have no alter boys, no prayers, no church establishments, no tax-exemption, no record of sex scandals, no pastors, preachers, or priests, no coming-of-age rituals like Bar Mitzvah or confirmation, no holidays, no banned books or statements about heresy and blasphemy, no record of burning witches or heretics, no public displays of prayer or piety, no holy book supposed to contain "All Truth', no recited creed, no mythological 'transubstantions', no edifices with crosses.

64 posted on 05/27/2006 8:40:18 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: thomaswest
Atheists may have advocates, but atheists have no churches from which to preach and they get no tithes.

I think Oxford may qualify as such a place.
66 posted on 05/27/2006 8:49:12 PM PDT by microgood (Truth is not contingent)
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To: thomaswest
Do you know any single atheist "advocate/preacher" with such a lavish lifestyle and private jets and command of TV and radio access?

Ted Turner.

I have little liking for Robertson, Falwell, Bauer, or Dobson. But I don't begrudge them the money or access they have. It is the narrow fundamentalism I dislike.

I dislike it from any corner. At least the Christians have the honesty to admit to being Fundamentalists.

There are no atheists promoting a disrespect for religion via meaningless public displays of piety.

I've heard and read plenty who say they put the Darwin fish on their car specifically to annoy Christians.

Atheists have no alter boys, no prayers, no church establishments, no tax-exemption, no record of sex scandals, no pastors, preachers, or priests, no coming-of-age rituals like Bar Mitzvah or confirmation, no holidays, no banned books or statements about heresy and blasphemy, no record of burning witches or heretics, no public displays of prayer or piety, no holy book supposed to contain "All Truth', no recited creed, no mythological 'transubstantions', no edifices with crosses.

That's twice you've used this word-for-word in the this thread. Three times and you have a creed. 8>)

67 posted on 05/27/2006 8:53:06 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Give a choice of things to believe in, I tend to choose the most interesting.)
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To: thomaswest
Atheists have no alter boys, no prayers, no church establishments, no tax-exemption, no record of sex scandals, no pastors, preachers, or priests, no coming-of-age rituals like Bar Mitzvah or confirmation, no holidays, no banned books or statements about heresy and blasphemy, no record of burning witches or heretics, no public displays of prayer or piety, no holy book supposed to contain "All Truth', no recited creed, no mythological 'transubstantions', no edifices with crosses.

To listen to you tell it, all problems reside with Christianity and Judaism. Atheists are just wonderful people. But you’ve simply omitted their failings while hyping the failings of others. This is a natural error given our one-party (Democratic party) press.

Atheist communists in the Soviet Union murdered about 60 million, those in China 75 Million. Those two cases together amount to more murders than committed by Christians in 20 centuries, or Jews in all history. It turns out that the Commandment not to kill has had real-world implications (as do the other commandments). Granted, Christians and Jews are hypocrites when they murder; atheists are merely rationale. But the murders have been far less.
150 posted on 05/28/2006 4:19:23 PM PDT by ChessExpert (MSM: America's one party press)
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