[bvw]

Those who use logic and reason ...

Yes, and the primal serpent who discussed fruit and trees and law with Eve used those and those alone. He well understood the subtext -- the "why" would be shunted away by the emotions using "This is is just logical" as an excuse.

[Coyoteman]

Yes, and the primal serpent who discussed fruit and trees and law with Eve used those and those alone.

Ah, yes. The tree of knowledge...