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To: Zionist Conspirator

>> You missed the point, perhaps intentionally. I am invoking authentic Jewish authorities who say that this chronology is not fictional (like that of Middle Earth) but actual history. This makes you a rejecter of Tradition when you defer and a hypocrite when you invoke your own tradition. <<

I tried to avoid stating this publicly, because I felt it better to keep such matters away from third parties whose faith may be weak or poorly more informed than ours: The point is that I just don't accept Jews as the repository of Tradition.

I whole-heartedly reject the doctrine of utter depravity; I hold that the Jews are a remarkable demonstration of unconditional love for God, even while many Christians sometimes seem to think that they will be rewarded in this life for attitudes which seem more like sucking up to a bully than loving the perfect Father; I believe the Jews will share in the resurrection of the dead when Christians keep ****ing things up; and I regard Jews as our elder brothers in the faith.

Nonetheless, I do not believe that the Jewish community is any longer protected from error by the extraordinary action of the Holy Spirit, and therefore no longer has the power of discerning truth through Tradition. I believe they once had that authority, but it was lost when the Temple curtain was torn, and the stone table cracked, and was in fact removed from Earth until it was restored through Christ to the apostles. Further, I reject the notion that such traditions held by certain Jews to be Tradition are in fact Tradition, since I do not believe they truly date back to when the Jews had the authority to discern Tradition.

Further, I would hold Christianity inherently must reject that Jews currently have the authority to discern Tradition, since they reject as scripture the Christian New Testament.

Even if i were to accept, for instance, that the Masoretic text, for instance, was pre-Christian, there is abundance evidence that many faith-filled Jewish sects did not use the Masoretic text. Why should I be expected to hold as authoritative the text of the Jews who did not become my co-religionists over the text of the Jews who did?


16 posted on 05/23/2006 10:14:30 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I believe they once had that authority

And this tradition dates from when they had that authority (though I maintain they still do).

21 posted on 05/24/2006 6:57:24 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . `al korchakha 'attah chay, `al korchakha tamut . . .)
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