Sorry, but that is pure wishful thinking. The three dates in question - 586 BC for the Babylonian conquest, 538 for the Persian release of the Jews, and 331 for the arrival of Alexander - are just about as certain as any dates in the Ancient Near East. They are attested by multiple chronologies from multiple peoples.
Your attempts to date mythological people is a harmless pastime, but bald assertions that "the secularists are wrong" about true and verifiable history can serve only to persuade people that the Jews are idiots, which is not an attitude I would like to see in this forum.
So your glib assertion that the people under discussion are "mythological" is somehow less than "bald," I presume. And anyone who dares disagree with you is automatically perceived to be an idiot? Rich intellect on display here.
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They are as certain as that the universe is fifteen billion years old and there was no Flood, I'll grant you that. But all of those assertions are wrong.
Your attempts to date mythological people is a harmless pastime, but bald assertions that "the secularists are wrong" about true and verifiable history can serve only to persuade people that the Jews are idiots, which is not an attitude I would like to see in this forum.
These are not "my" attempts. They are from authentic Jewish Tradition as explained in my sources. Even my "bald assertion" that the secularists are wrong is an indirect quote from one of my sources.
One reason I've been posting these things the past couple weeks is to shatter the "Jewish mystique" of hyper-secular, uebersophisticated skeptics and to remind the world who the original "rednecks" really were. In fact, I maintain that reclaiming this original "primitive" Theocratic mindset is essential to prepare the world for Mashiach and Malkhut HaShamayim. Yet the Jewish image of secularized intellectual is so ingrained on the modern sensibility that even many Jews believe it, so much so that Jewish outreach has to tread extremely gently in spreading the Torah message. Personally, I am not only hurt by ridicule of my own "redneck" people for teachings they did not invent but rather inherited from Judaism, but also by the radical difference between the modern Jewish image and what one sees when one reads, say, the Book of Joshua or the Scroll of Ruth.
In other words, what I am trying to say is that you really are saying that "Jews are idiots" because the teachings you are attacking are the authentic Jewish Tradition. It's about time it was disassociated with non-Jews and re-associated with its true possessors.
I wish to make one final suggestion. I have never pinged you to any of these threads yet you have long made a habit of attacking and disputing anything I post with regard to Jewish Tradition (you once disputed that Ro'sh HaShanah was the oldest human holiday, eg). I understand from both your screen name and your posts that you are an enthusiast of the "eighteenth century" enlightenment. I am not. I am a Theocrat. So basically what I post has nothing to do with you unless and untill Mashiach comes and compels you to live by the Seven Noahide Laws. Therefore, since both of our worldviews are set in stone and neither of us is going to give, may I suggest you avoid reading these threads that so offend you? I don't hunt down your posts to argue with. I think that would be the best and most "rational" course, don't you? Live and let live!
I shall quote it in full:
Sorry, but that is pure wishful thinking. The three dates in question - 586 BC for the Babylonian conquest, 538 for the Persian release of the Jews, and 331 for the arrival of Alexander - are just about as certain as any dates in the Ancient Near East. They are attested by multiple chronologies from multiple peoples.
Your attempts to date mythological people is a harmless pastime, but bald assertions that "the secularists are wrong" about true and verifiable history can serve only to persuade people that the Jews are idiots, which is not an attitude I would like to see in this forum.
If I recall correctly, none of the Orthodox Jews on this forum responded to this insult.