Posted on 05/21/2006 2:04:31 PM PDT by Full Court
....the name Joshua in Hebrew means 'Jehovah-Saviour', the name Jesus, in Greek means Saviour.
Yes He is.
Joshua was a type of Christ.
So Joshua is a more discriptive term for our Savior the Jesus...agreed.
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No, the name that was given to Him, was Jesus not Joshua.
That is the name you must get saved by, you must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
I'm not convinced...I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
Please colorcountry don't assume or twist my words!
Just because you gave your side of a story I have the right to show the source of your claim!
In those days it was a community activities to use those things and at what age or other surrounding circumstance!
did one do it in their youth, did one do it to humor another?
It has nothing to do at the time of translating the Book of Mormon with the Urim and Thummim!
Timeline is very important!
This is the heart of the problem. Christians need to read up on the history of the recent Bible versions and realize that it is the Textus Receptus which God inspired, not the Alexandrian "rewrites" conveniently found in trash cans outside the Vatican and/or "hidden away and protected" behind the Vatican gates for no man to read.
This is a first-up on Google...
Evidence for the New Testament is composed of 5366 manuscripts and fragments and 2209 lectionaries (books used in churches), papyrus fragments, uncial and minuscule manuscripts (modified capitals and cursives). Each of them is given a name, an abbreviation and/or a number. There are 88 papyri, referred to as papyri 1-88 (e.g. P66, p46, p75); uncials (e.g. Aleph, b, c, d), lectionaries 1-2209, minuscule 1-2795. The overwhelming majority of these manuscripts, lectionaries and writers agree with each others as to the reading of the new testament. Manuscripts from the second century (p66) down through the middle ages (A.D. 1500) attest to the reading of this 'majority text.' The corrupted manuscripts are of the 1 percent minority of the Greek texts available and are also known as the Alexandrian manuscripts. The Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts are of this group. These are manuscripts used by Wescott and Hort in 1881 in their revised Greek translation. This 'new' Greek text using the 1 percent minority text of the Vatican manuscript (b), introduced by Wescott and Hort has been used as the Greek text for all subsequent versions of the Bible, and has supplanted the majority text with it's almost two millennia standing. Frederick Kenyon (The Text of the Greek Bible); director of the British museum, said of the majority text: "this is the text found in the great majority of manuscripts, entrenched in print by Erasmus and Stephanus and known as the Textus Receptus or received text...until 1881...it held the field as the text in practical universal use and when its position was then decisively challenged, a stiff fight was made in its defense by advocates such as Burgeon. This 'new' minority-type Greek text used predominantly. . .Aleph and b type readings. . .[the changes] amount to an extensive modification of the text. It has been the dominating influence in all modern critical editions. It is clear that...deliberate alteration...has been at work on a large scale in one text or the other...the Textus Receptus being habitually the longer and fuller of the two." All new versions of the Bible ignore over 5000 Greek majority texts for a few aberrant forms of the new testament. Further facts concerning the manuscripts that are the majority text, versus the Alexandrian manuscripts. The Alexandrian manuscripts (Vaticanus (b), SINAITICUS (Aleph), Bezae (d), and Papyrus 75) not only are a minority of a fraction of 1 percent of the Greek manuscripts available, but they are the witness representing only one geographical area, Alexandria, Egypt. The majority text manuscripts come from Greece, Constantinople, Asia minor, Syria, Alexandria, Africa, Gaul, south Italy, Sicily, England, and Ireland. As Wilbur Pickering (Identity of the New Testament) said: "A reading found in only one limited area cannot be original... if a reading died out in the fourth century, we have the verdict of history against it." K. W. Clark (Today's Problems With the Critical Text of the New Testament) said "All are found on the same Egyptian recension." Recension according to Webster means "revision..." "...The King James version was translated from the 'Textus Receptus' or 'received text', that is, the majority of Greek manuscripts which agree with each other and have been accepted through the centuries. The variations among the majority text are very minor, but "the remaining handful of manuscripts are as diverse as dogs and dragons" according to G.A.Ripling (New Age Bible Versions). This handful not only disagree with the majority text, but also disagree with themselves. Included in these are the Vaticanus (b), Sinaiticus (Aleph), Bezae (d), and Papyrus 75. Dean John Burgeon (The Revision Revised) writes concerning these four minority texts mentioned above: "all four are discovered on careful scrutiny to differ essentially, not only from the 99 out of 100 of the whole body of extant manuscripts, but even from one another."
The revisions to Scripture have sadly followed the same path most churches have followed during this past century -- liberalism, revisionism, deconstructionism, ecumenicism and equivocation.
It's all a magick show. The "new-old" texts do not agree with 2,000 years of Scripture; do not agree with each other; dilute God's sovereignty and Christ's specific and accomplished redemption; and were "found" in ludicrous places which wouldn't hold up to scrutiny in decent fiction, let alone fact.
There's a reason the New Age Bibles are based on an Egyptian rendering. And it's not good.
Ping to the link in post 608.
Amen. Even the NKJV which I often refer to for comparison has Vaticanus footnotes, etc.
Footnotes from a garbage can. What next, indeed.
We know that the terrorist only need to be accurate once the US has to be accurate all of the time!
The smearers and slanders and those who have an agenda and those who love gossip more than truth, are only to eagar to embraces those with an Ax to Grind!
Yet the LDS who have the same clay feet as the accusers must some how the LDS are not allowed to have foibles with out them being used as fodder!
John 8
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Yep, that was yesterday's link. It's disheartening to realize so few know the history of their Bible versions.
But the internet has done a great service by providing this information to anyone who is compelled to learn the truth.
thanks for the post this is going to be an interesting read!
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history," observed the German philosopher, Georg W.F. Hegel. The familiar axiom is at once lamentable and understandable.
For the common man does not have at his disposal a store of reliable information upon which to base educated judgments, but a bewildering mass of half-truth, untruth and skewed data.
Among the purveyors of misinformation are undiscerning historians, who scarcely take notice of those organizations which maintain a covert existence, and revisionist historians who misrepresent the secret societies to serve their agenda.
If you guys have the time this long weekend, read the links. They'd make for an interesting discussion.
..."We learn from history that we do not learn from history," observed the German philosopher, Georg W.F. Hegel...
Is that the earth spinning backwards? Are you and I posting the same links?
Time for pastry. 8~)
FOOL!
I think the time has arrived for another level in the restoration for good or bad it all has to be deal with to purge!
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