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To: Zionist Conspirator
With respect, I disagree that conservatives (well, at least alot of the conservatives I listen to and read) would embrace conservative-leaning "Hispanic Immigrants" if they were illegals. Please understand, I just wish to refrain from the characteristically euphemistic evasion.

Your point is interesting, yet clouded by your apparent unwillingness to characterize the problem as being one of illegals, since you used the 'Hispanic Immigrant' tag more than once.

31 posted on 05/16/2006 1:56:25 PM PDT by spankalib
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To: spankalib
With respect, I disagree that conservatives (well, at least alot of the conservatives I listen to and read) would embrace conservative-leaning "Hispanic Immigrants" if they were illegals. Please understand, I just wish to refrain from the characteristically euphemistic evasion.

Your point is interesting, yet clouded by your apparent unwillingness to characterize the problem as being one of illegals, since you used the 'Hispanic Immigrant' tag more than once.

I'm sorry my use of incorrect terminology confused you. I was trying to make a point as to how religious identity and loyalty seems always to be completely swallowed up in racial/ethnic identities (witness even rightwing Jews attending meetings dedicated, not to Judaism or Jewish moral teachings, but "white civilization"). I was not trying to fudge the illegality issue and I'm sorry if it sounded like it did. However, the true root of the entire debate is precisely this "clash of civilizations" which completely obscures the fact that both "civilizations" allegedly share the same religion. Yet Latin American immigrants, legal or illegal, make up an ethnic political block allied with abortionism and homosexuality despite their own "retro" form of Catholicism (see my reference to Black Fundamentalists, who are by no means "immigrants" of any kind, and the complete annihilation of the influence of Black Fundamentalism on Black politics).

The fact is that no one is upset with illegal Irish immigrants (except maybe me). The immigration debate is about a "war of civilizations" with English-speaking European Catholics and Protestants on one side and "non-European" Spanish(!!!)-speaking Catholics and Pentecostals on the other.

If people truly lived their religions instead of making them a mere badge of cultural identity the world wouldn't be in the mess it's in today. Instead advocates of morality are joining with atheist racialists to promote "white civilization" and the pro-"gay" Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton join together with the anti-"gay" Louis Farrakhan, with nothing joining the groups in either alliance but skin color. I'm sorry, but this disgusts me.

So many "religious" people cast aside their religious identities for ethnic ones that sometimes I wonder if anyone is really religious at all. After all, rural American (white) Fundamentalist Protestants, despite subscribing to a theology in which "race" doesn't even exist, have always become "civilizationists" when the prospect of integration with co-religionists of a different color has been threatened.

No wonder so many liberals think that "G-d" is merely a projection of ethnicity. Too many of us act as if He were (G-d forgive us!).

I don't know what more I can say to get my point across.

33 posted on 05/16/2006 4:21:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . `al korchekha 'attah nolad . . .)
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