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This idea that our Blessed Mother is the queen of heaven and, of course, the queen of earth as well, we need to consider because it comes from the Old Testament monarchy.

That Mary was extraordinary is not in doubt. She should be greatly admired and greatly respected, more so than any other woman who ever lived.

But this article has raised alarm bells for me. In my opinion, it comes dangerously close to making Mary co-equal with God. Mary is not part of the Trinity. She should not be worshiped.

None of us have it completely right, especially me. But one thing I am sure of is that making Mary into a God is wrong.

Mary is not part of the Trinity. She should not be worshiped. None of us have it completely right, especially me. But one thing I am sure of is that making Mary into a God is wrong.

Exactly. Your judgment is 100% correct. To say otherwise is an abominable heresy.

That Mary was extraordinary is not in doubt. She should be greatly admired and greatly respected, more so than any other woman who ever lived.

Here, I think, your judgment is also spot on--and it speaks volume for you, because even though this is "not in doubt" to you, this small admission some Christians are almost afraid to make--as if they lost something theologically by conceding it.

I think there is little that separates us, my friend. So let me ask a question in the theoretical. If it could be shown to your satisfaction that titles such as "Queen of Heaven and Earth" are indeed Scripturally prefigured, would you have any problem with your fellow Christians using them?

Let me ask you a question. Are you CATHOLIC ?

Because, this is a Catholic Thread. If you are not Catholic, you need not read what I have posted here.

There is no compulsion. But,let me address your query.

I cannot understand at all why you have alarm bells.

Father Altier has never said at any point of time that Our Lady or Mary, Our Mother is "God" or is to be worshipped.

Where has he said that ? He has only said that Mary is the Queen of Heaven and Earth and that is a part of "Traditional Catholic Christian Spirituality".

If you disagree with that point of view, fine. But, he has not said that she is God to be worshipped.

Also, We Catholics do not worship Mary. We venerate her as I do.

I am a 34 year old Guy who uses Mary as an Intercessor with Jesus Christ, who is My King, My Savior, My Lord, My Master, and My Redeeemer.

Jesus Christ is my Personal Lord and Savior in the Blessed Sacrament where he is present -- Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity.

I do not worship Mary nor have I ever worshipped her.

Finally, please respect this Thread. It is a CATHOLIC/WORSHIP/PRAYER Thread.

I have stated the following above at the beginning of the thread.

I really can't understand why so many protestants have alarm bells and fits of the shivers when the Blessed Virgin Mary is honored. Nobody is worshipping her, but she deserves all the honors we can give her because of her role in Christ's incarnation.

She was found (and miraculously preserved) worthy to carry God Himself in her body for nine months, and to raise Him, teach Him, and guide Him until His public ministry. She could have said "No" to the Annunciation, but she freely accepted that momentous and awesome responsibility.

And as Father Altier says, the Queen Mother does have an advisory or ministerial role in the reign of the King her son, a long-standing role in Judaic tradition. "The Queen sits at his right hand, arrayed in gold." Of course she does not reign herself, but her son listens to her.

Consider the Gospel story of the marriage at Cana. Jesus did not feel the time was right to begin his public ministry, but the Blessed Virgin gently requested His help so that the bridegroom and his family would not be shamed in front of all their relatives and friends. And He did listen to her - and notice what she told the servants - "Do whatever he tells you." And that is her role with us as well - she is not to be worshipped, but honored and asked for her help. In return, she reminds us to follow her son and "do whatever He tells you."