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To: Pyro7480
Would you have given that advice to St. Catherine of Siena?

St. Catherine of Siena, a woman reknowned for her sanctity, first contacted the pope at his request when she served as the informal Florentine ambassador to the Holy See in Avignon. And all this occurred after her correspondence (through secretaries) with papal legates who consulted her.

If the Pope actually invited pravknight or some other Internet malcontent to meet him and solicited his advice you might have a point.

In other words, if I had heard that Mother Angelica in a visit to the Vatican had taken the pope aside and privately expressed some concerns to him I would see an analogy between such an incident and the work of St. Catherine.

The ultra-traditionalist picture of St. Catherine as a random layperson walking up to the Pope and screaming at him that he was a heretic is a myth, actually.

61 posted on 05/04/2006 11:44:36 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
The ultra-traditionalist picture of St. Catherine as a random layperson walking up to the Pope and screaming at him that he was a heretic is a myth, actually.

In pointing out an apparent exaggeration, you yourself are making an exaggeration.

67 posted on 05/04/2006 1:29:28 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: wideawake

I cited St. Catherine of Sienna as an example of an inferior who judged the misbehavior of the pope of her day and rebuked him.

When she did what she did, she was a nobody.

I am not judging any pope's motiviations, but the fruits of their actions: confusion.

If what I have read was a myth prove it with citations, and from several different authors.


72 posted on 05/04/2006 2:14:55 PM PDT by pravknight (Christos Regnat, Christos Imperat, Christos Vincit)
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