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I've read the Catechism and it says nothing about your exaggerated view of the papacy.

My view of the Papacy is not exaggerated - it is the traditional, orthodox acceptation of the papacy.

Catechism of the Catholic Church, English translation, paragraph 882: The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter's successor, "is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful." "For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered."

There's nothing in there about being a moderator or some mere first among equals.

Nor is there anything in there about random anonymous Internet malcontents having some kind of jurisdiction over him or some authority to judge him.

So what makes the fact you seem obsessed with the letter of the law a matter of bigotry?

Another sidestep. "You Latins" is, of course, the marker of your bigotry.

"You Mexicans", "You Jews", "You Negroes", "You Latins" - the bigot's usual way of addressing an entire class of people he has unjustly stereotyped.

In the Byzantine mind prayerfulness and liturgical orthodoxy is first and the law is secondary.

That's your own idealized picture of your own liturgical community. It would be nice if it were true, but Byzantines put their pants on one leg at a time just like we poor benighted Latins do. Sorry.

That's the error of the West.

LOL! Now the entire West is in error! All Latin Rite Catholics are heretics now!

You seem so overcome by your own personal pride to see this in yourself.

The man who proclaims himself equal to Saint Paul and entitled to judge Popes, a man who has the power to declare that the sin of detraction is not actually a sin, says that I am prideful.

I'll take that comment with as much respect as it deserves.

The fruits of the Vatican II era have been rotten to the core, and if you can't see that you're blind.

We've already established that I'm blind because I acknowledge that the Pope is my pastor and that he actually has just authority over me as my pastor.

If anything is lacking in you is a spirit of charity.

Says the man who characterizes Popes as authors of scandal and all obdedient catholics as "blind" and "papolators." Please, o charitable one, teach me the way of your charity!

Threatened aren't you.

If the even the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Barque of Peter, trust me, I'm not too worried about you.

Filled by hate, aren't you.

The man who begins a thread spewing insults feels that others are filled by hate? Fact: you move me to pity. Again, iatre, therapouson seautou.

My prayer is that Pope Benedict XVI will remove the barriers to the licit celebration of the Old Rites

That would be wonderful. I'd love to see the Tridentine Rite have a wider application. I attend it myself every Sunday and Holyday.

and that he will disband the office for interreligious dialogue.

Why would you want to do that? Are you (shudder) filled by hate?

Stop playing your "The King can Do No Wrong" game.

Yet another straw man. The question is not "can the Pope do wrong?"

Of course he can.

The question is whether or not you are entitled to treat your pastor like garbage if he says or does something that rankles your own personal sensibilities.

The answer, to a Christian, is obviously no.

You treat your pastor with respect, you give him the benefit of the doubt and you take a charitable attitude.

You certainly do not denounce him as a heretic because you are not educated enough to read what he actually wrote in the language he promulgated it in.