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To: Quester; Grig; Logophile; Utah Girl; DelphiUser
I say you didn’t make much of an argument with your post. You may say differently, nice collection of scriptures, too bad you didn’t use them better. ~ Delphi user

I say that you are resorting to the tactics of someone who has nothing further of value to bring to the debating table.

Of course, ... such behaviour is not at all uncharacteristic of the Mormons posting to this site.

You all have variety of such (ineffectual) tactics that you use ... when you can no longer proceed with honest debate. ~ Quester

In all the years I have seen you post "Quester", to the LDS such as Grig James one of the longest dialogue, even Logogphile etc!

You never gave an acknowledgement to any thing that that stared you in the face!

You are not truly a "Quester" as in "Quest!" that is a misnomer because a seekers want to know the truth not deny it!

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Matt. 11:
25 ¶ At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Matt. 16:
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 10:
21 ¶ In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 6:
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

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John 6:
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. (a servant of God like Moses or Enoch, Joseph is purified [elevated] for a brief time is able to see the Father)

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John 17:
1 THESE words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

Eph. 1:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Quester I can't help but marvel...

Jesus could bear witness to you "Quester" of His Father in Heaven, and you would tell Jesus he is wrong for the Nicene Creed says..

724 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:32 AM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

Sorry, I left you off of my ping to 725


726 posted on 05/15/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: restornu
In all the years I have seen you post "Quester", to the LDS such as Grig James one of the longest dialogue, even Logogphile etc!

You never gave an acknowledgement to any thing that that stared you in the face!

You are not truly a "Quester" as in "Quest!" that is a misnomer because a seekers want to know the truth not deny it!

Quester I can't help but marvel...

Jesus could bear witness to you "Quester" of His Father in Heaven, and you would tell Jesus he is wrong for the Nicene Creed says ...


A few of your statements here, Restornu ... are an example of what I am talking about.

Here ... you go beyond ... judging my arguments ... to judging me, ... something that Christians are encouraged not to do.
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
And it is but one example of what Mormons are, more often than not, left doing when the evidence doesn't support their contentions (as is often the case).

I, actually, understand (to some extent) your plight.

Mormonism is built upon a virtual dearth of non-evidence.
You hold sacred a document (the BOM) ... for which you have no original documents ... which only one person ever claimed to have read.

The BOM references historical events and circumstances (Jews in the early Americas) ... for which there is no supporting evidence.

You leaders have changed their positions on key points of church doctrine at many times in your history.

You declare as God-approved, ... behaviours which the Jewish and Christians faiths condemned long ago (polygamy).

Etc. ... etc. ... etc.
I understand that defending the above ... would be quite difficult.

So ... it doesn't surprise me when ...
... a poster starts to judge me ... rather than my argument,

... or when a poster hits the abuse button ... rather than address the argument,

... or when a poster begins to post non-relevant pictures,

... or when a poster simply declares an argument wrong without bringing forth any evidence,

... or a poster just fades away ... from the discussion.
Actually, it would surprise me ... that any of you could raise cogent arguments for the claims of Mormonism ... for that task is well-nigh impossible.

Believe me when I say ... I feel your pain.

But ... also believe me ... when I say that I, and those you meet here who argue for the cause of christianity ... are, largely ... doing just that.

We are really only anti-Mormon in the sense that, ... we believe that you should know the truth.

And ... so long as you are willing to dialogue with us, ... we will continue to present to you the truths of historic christianity ... and the fallacies of Mormonism.

God Bless ...

728 posted on 05/15/2006 9:02:38 AM PDT by Quester
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