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To: DelphiUser
I believe I simply pointed out that the orthodox teaching of the Church is that The Father and the Son are distinct Persons, but are both the One Eternal God, along with the Holy Spirit.

The Nicene Creed disagrees with you.

I don't know why you think the Nicene Creed disagrees with the proposition that the Father and Son (and the Holy Spirit) are distinct persons, but what Quester said is perfectly correct. If you're trying to say that the Nicene Creed disagrees with orthodox Trinitarianism, then you aren't understanding the creed the way Trinitarians do; if you're trying to say that orthodox Trinitarianism doesn't teach what Quester said it does, you're simply mistaken.

Another ancient (4th Century) creed, the Athanasian, puts it perhaps more clearly:

And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal ... So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords.

601 posted on 05/09/2006 4:17:54 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion; DelphiUser

Your decorum is much appreciated.

Few years back I had a discussion with someone who is Eastern Orthodox that was different from the Tradition Trinity!

I think the term was Filioque http://www.catholic.com/library/Filioque.asp

To the LDS we believe that there are three serperate personage Father & Son and the Holy Ghost but all of one mind!


602 posted on 05/09/2006 4:41:50 PM PDT by restornu (Earnestly it is impossible for man to walk with God, and also maintain the humor of a reprobate!)
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To: Campion; Quester; colorcountry

On this very thread, I have been told that I am not a Christian because I believe God and Christ are separate beings who share the title of God. I went and read the Creed with this thought in mind, it looked to me like they said the Christ was the same personage as the father. But it is such flowery language I could be wrong.

If I am wrong about the creed, why are “Christians” telling me that I believe in a pagan god because I believe they are separate, and not the same personage?

On post #571 ColorCountry spent a lot of time telling me God is one not two or three personages, care to straighten CC out for me?


606 posted on 05/09/2006 11:25:48 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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