So, by what spirit did I just testify of Christ? The Book of Mormon also testifies of Christ.
Delphi, you are funny. You use this verse to say that the only way that someone can say the words, "Jesus is Lord" is through the Holy Ghost. Mormon's believe that the only way to get the gift of the Holy Ghost is through the "laying on of hands by one with proper authority." You use this same logic to say that only members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints can have the gift of the Holy Ghost.....All others, Catholic, Protestants, do not have the authority to have this gift. So how do they profess that Christ is Lord?
John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 1.18: Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 1.19: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
I think teaching of another Christ of a different Christ, teaching of one who is Lord but not God. One who is flesh, but just like a myriad of other gods that came in the flesh, would be denying that Christ is Lord. Search the Bible. The Bible clearly says: There is one Lord
Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.
Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Gal 3:20 God is one. Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Mar 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
You can recognize false doctrine by knowing the word of GOD. You must validate for yourself every doctrine you hear with the word of GOD (Bible). Otherwise the antichrist will lead you into a false belief. You will think you are following Christ but you will be a follower of the Antichrist.
>>Delphi, you are funny. You use this verse to say that the only way that someone can
>>say the words, "Jesus is Lord" is through the Holy Ghost. Mormon's believe that the
>>only way to get the gift of the Holy Ghost is through the "laying on of hands by one
>>with proper authority." You use this same logic to say that only members of the
>>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints can have the gift of the Holy Ghost.....
>>All others, Catholic, Protestants, do not have the authority to have this gift. So how
>>do they profess that Christ is Lord?
Easy, They also testify by the power of the Holy Ghost. (I have never denyed that, nor does the Church)
Mormons do not say what you think we say.
The gift of the Holy Ghost is the right to have the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost.
All men can be moved upon by the spirit, that is commonly how they become members (Big Big Grin)
>> I think teaching of another Christ of a different Christ
We teach of Jesus Christ, Born of Mary, the only begotten of the father, you saying we don’t won’t change that. Your argument is tired; you keep repeating the same statements about what we believe without understanding the refutation of your postulates. Do you have anything new?
>>You can recognize false doctrine by knowing the word of GOD.
And it’s a good thing I do.
>>You must validate for yourself every doctrine you hear with the word of GOD (Bible).
Um, Praying about it is not an option then? OK, CC does not believe in prayer as a valid way of knowing anything, explains a lot. (I reserve the right to come back to this later)
>> Otherwise the antichrist will lead you into a false belief.
>>You will think you are following Christ but you will be a follower of the Antichrist.
I see, and there is no possibility that my witnesses of truth are correct because … You say so. So I am to take the word of an Internet poster over a personal witness from God?
BTW the James 2 quote, read the whole thing it is about people being justified by WORKS.
Try this on for size Gospel of John 17: 21 & 22 (the great intercessory prayer) Jesus draws a simile on his and God’s oneness.
21 That they all may be one; as thou, father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
“Even as we are one” We know he did not expect the apostles to join into one super apostle but a oneness of spirit, a oneness of purpose, a oneness of heart. This was his meaning, him who has ears to hear, let him hear.
There is support for what we teach in the Bible The very fact that we are having this discussion is proof that the gospel as presented in the Bible is “Debatable” because we are currently debating it. This proves the need for more scripture to add to the testimony so that the Gospel will be preached in its fullness, a fullness that you deny.
As we were told in General Conference in April, there are those who are wise… and those who are other-wise.