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To: colorcountry

>> In your theological thinking, who gets the glory?
>>You said it: It's your performance.
>>(I'll call ahead & tell God to move over; another god is acomin'.)

In post 438 you said “Did you know eternal life is now because it's based on a faith relationship of who you know and not based upon performance?”

That is where the word performance cane in. I never said my performance, I said “performance = sin or righteousness”

Can you be saved in unrepented sin?
If you repent, then sin again (without repenting), do you not have unrepented sin?
If you repent, then keep all the commandments, which includes actions you are commanded to take, and continued repentance, are you working your way to heaven?
Are you saved after all you can do? (Being commanded to do your best, so to keep that commandment you do everything you can, so that you are indeed repentant.)

>>Please define "saved."

Saved: To enter into the rest of god; To achieve a level of Glory in God’s kingdom. (http://scriptures.lds.org/tgs/slvtnbyg ) Although this one just refers you to other topics, as you know Mormon’s do not use the term “Saved” since it denotes passivity, and lack of responsibility.

>>Please define "exhaltation"

Exaltation: To achieve the highest result possible from this life; To inherit the kingdom of God, to become a god. ( http://scriptures.lds.org/tge/exlttn )

I’ll define this before you ask…

Eternal life: The kind of life God leads, where you preside in righteousness over your creations, and grow in power and glory forever. ( http://scriptures.lds.org/tge/etrnllf )

Glad to help you with your definitions

For Secular Meanings Try http://www.dictionary.com

For Mormon Definitions of Spiritual things Try this link ( http://scriptures.lds.org/tg/contents )

>> But, how do you earn exaltation?

Exaltation and Eternal life cannot be earned, any more than gifts can be earned (if you earn it it’s a wage) Gifts like Eternal life and Exaltation can only be bestowed on the righteous, and will be received with humility if at all (If you’re not humble, you won’t get it). This is a Gift that God would give to all his children if they will but prepare themselves to receive it.

Dare Taken. Be nice to everyone on this thread, I double dog dare ya ;-) (movie The Christmas story reference)


463 posted on 05/08/2006 12:51:08 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

Very nicely done!


465 posted on 05/08/2006 1:08:26 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts! Its all depends on who dominates the colorsof the Gumballs!<:)
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To: DelphiUser; Colofornian
In post 438 you said “Did you know eternal life is now because it's based on a faith relationship of who you know and not based upon performance?” Not me, I didn't say this.

Can you be saved in unrepented sin? If you repent, then sin again (without repenting), do you not have unrepented sin? If you repent, then keep all the commandments, which includes actions you are commanded to take, and continued repentance, are you working your way to heaven? Are you saved after all you can do? (Being commanded to do your best, so to keep that commandment you do everything you can, so that you are indeed repentant.) Again, not me

Exaltation and Eternal life cannot be earned, any more than gifts can be earned (if you earn it it’s a wage) Gifts like Eternal life and Exaltation can only be bestowed on the righteous,

Thanks for the definitions. So if God so chooses, the likes of Colofornian and I (colorcountry) will recieve exaltation even though what we deserve by the definitions found on lds.org is outer darkness. You don't have to do one thing, or partake of one ordinance in order to achieve exhaltation. YEAH, RIGHT!.....OH I see the qualifier there at the very end "by the righteous."

Please define righteous. ; )

466 posted on 05/08/2006 1:10:49 PM PDT by colorcountry (He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose.)
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