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To: DelphiUser; restornu
If I create you, I am in authority over you (lest I un-create you). So that’s where authority starts. (This isn’t even theology, merely logic).

You can't even apply that to the family. Oh, sure, as parents are the ones procreating their kids, of course they have authority over them. But you beg the question. No one here was ever claiming that you don't believe that your version of Elohim has authority over you. So your "perfect logic" is aimed at a straw man we didn't construct.

So, let me spell it out for you, yet again: A parent has authority of their child. But that authority is not "ultimate." God invests authority in the government for the protection and safety of individuals. And if a parent abuses a child, then the government has the right to weigh in w/its authority over and above that given parent.

In addition to that, the creator-God's authority also trumps that of the parent. If you're trying to say that parental authority is universally absolute and is the ultimate authority in that kid's life, well, that's a very dangerous proposition, for God isn't called "Father" for nothin'!

361 posted on 05/05/2006 10:05:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

>>You can't even apply that to the family.

You are not creating; procreating is not creation, but close. That is why your authority is not absolute. I would say Society, not government, the government should not be involved (I am a conservative after all) then God.

>>God isn't called "Father" for nothin'!

I agree, whole heartedly!


374 posted on 05/05/2006 11:43:26 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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