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To: wideawake
"Saul was corrupted by the power, did evil things like undermine Israel's defensive strategy
David, although a better man than Saul, was also corrupted by power and did evil things
David's heir Solomon, despite his great intelligence and administrative and political acumen, was also corrupted by power and was led astray.
The lust for power among Solomon's descendants broke the people of Israel into two warring camps and initiated a period of decline and hardship"

WOW! The Israelite leaders were evil or corrupt. How downright GNOSTIC of you! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is so much fun. Did you ever in your mind imagine that perhaps these men could have been severely flawed before they became leaders, and that they continued to be flawed after they became leaders? Do you really believe that they were perfect little lambkins, and then suddenly, upon being in positions of leadership, they suddently became corrupt and evil? How naive!

Are you dizzy yet from all your spinning?

95 posted on 05/02/2006 10:42:11 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Enterprise
WOW! The Israelite leaders were evil or corrupt. How downright GNOSTIC of you! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Apparently, you are unaware of what Gnosticism teaches. The inherent sinfulness and failure of all men has always been a central tenet of orthodox Christianity from the very beginning.

This is so much fun. Did you ever in your mind imagine that perhaps these men could have been severely flawed before they became leaders, and that they continued to be flawed after they became leaders?

Again, the orthodox Christian doctrine of original sin holds the answer to your question.

Do you really believe that they were perfect little lambkins, and then suddenly, upon being in positions of leadership, they suddently became corrupt and evil? How naive!

That was not the argument - the argument was that the power inherent in a kingship is a temptation to wrongdoing. Hence, the kings of Israel went far astray when they began to ignore God and keep their own counsel.

Are you dizzy yet from all your spinning?

I hold the same position now as I did at the beginning of the thread.

You have held several contradictory positions, attempted to falsify documentary evidence and revealed that you change the definition of Gnosticism around to suit your rhetorical purposes from post to post depending on your whim.

97 posted on 05/02/2006 11:08:22 AM PDT by wideawake
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