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'After two days, He will revive us'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 20, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 04/20/2006 1:09:52 PM PDT by Tim Long

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"Given the 12-year gap, we are somewhere between four years before and eight years into Hosea's Third Day."

He lost me here. How did he get these dates?

1 posted on 04/20/2006 1:09:54 PM PDT by Tim Long
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To: Tim Long

Bishop Usher Young Earth Creation Science BUMP!!


2 posted on 04/20/2006 1:12:37 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Tim Long

How is Hal Lindsey News? Sounds like religion to me, not News.


3 posted on 04/20/2006 1:13:22 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: kalee

self ping for later reading.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 1:16:18 PM PDT by kalee
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To: MineralMan

How odd you would see it this way. Some kook, Far-East scientist or goof-ball east coast or left coast academian can expostulate some far-fetched theory of how the earth is being destroyed by man and that is NEWS, but even mention God and instantly it's not news, just religion. There is more empirical evidence here than the last five Chicken Little Global Warming warnings I've seen in the mass media!


5 posted on 04/20/2006 1:26:58 PM PDT by Habeus Corpus (Molon Labe!!)
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Sorry. It's Religion, not news. News is something that is currently happening...stuff we can see.

There's nothing wrong with religion. There's a whole section of Free Republic devoted to it. I often read the posts in that section, since religion interests me.

But Hal Lindsey's fantasies and speculations just don't qualify as news.


6 posted on 04/20/2006 1:29:39 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Tim Long

He lost me there also.


7 posted on 04/20/2006 1:30:24 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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Ussher arrived at the date of 4004 B.C. by taking known dates in history, and calculating backward by using the chronologies of Genesis Chapters 5 and 11 and working backward. The calculations themselves were so complicated that, in the original documents, they covered more than 100 pages....Given the 12-year gap, we are somewhere between four years before and eight years into Hosea's Third Day.

"He lost me here. How did he get these dates?"

Hal Lindsey's earlier books are all based upon the dispensationalist assumption that the Tribulation and Armageddon would occur within a biblical generation (40 years, per Lindsey) of the reestablishment of Israel in 1948. While I'm not aware of Lindsey acually putting it to print, if you do the math you arrive at the conclusion that the Second Coming must occur by 1988. Lots of other people did do that math, and if you don't believe me, check out the massive wave of "end times" literature that was published in the 80s, and the dearth of it after 1989.

So however Lindsey's getting his current dates, I'm sure it's the same method that led him to believe that the world was headed for Argageddon back in the 80s....namely, via newspaper exegesis and dispensensationalism....

8 posted on 04/20/2006 1:39:11 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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"So however Lindsey's getting his current dates, I'm sure it's the same method that led him to believe that the world was headed for Argageddon back in the 80s....namely, via newspaper exegesis and dispensensationalism...."




He did pretty well for himself with all that, didn't he? Maybe the money has run out and he's going to come out with a new book to make some more.

Me...I'm waiting for the space ship to come by again. My prediction is that it will occur on February 13, 2023.

People get ready...the spaceship's comin'....
Don't need no baggage, you just get on board...


9 posted on 04/20/2006 1:50:20 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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"Recently, a Senate committee calculated a 70 percent probability, for example, of an attack against the United States with a weapon of mass destruction within the next 10 years."

Yes, and as long as the Senate continues to do NOTHING to seal our borders, their predictions will remain accurate...


10 posted on 04/20/2006 1:50:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Alex Murphy

You're right. Edgar C. Whisenant released "88 Reasons Why the Rapture Is in 1988." Some have since revised the theory to say that the 40 years was meant to be after the capture of Jerusalem, placing the Rapture in 2007. This isn't widely stated, however, probably for fear that they'll be wrong again.


11 posted on 04/20/2006 1:55:04 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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Maybe the money has run out and he's going to come out with a new book to make some more.

He did put out a book recently....There's A New Wife Coming!

12 posted on 04/20/2006 1:57:45 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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People get ready...the spaceship's comin'.... Don't need no baggage, you just get on board...

Is that from a song?

13 posted on 04/20/2006 1:59:11 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Alex Murphy; P-Marlowe

I have it on good authority that the exact date for His return is hidden in P-M's tag line.


14 posted on 04/20/2006 6:49:00 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: MineralMan

A Generation is sometimes 40 years and sometimes 70 years...


15 posted on 04/20/2006 7:24:49 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: Tim Long
He lost me here. How did he get these dates?

Ah, I finally figured it out, backtracking through the article. Lindsey wants to make the case that God keeps time via the formula 1 day = 1000 years. He puts forth his actual thesis here:

We date our own calendar counting forward from Christ. So does God, which brings us back to Hosea's prophecy. "After two days will He revive us, and in the third day, raise us up," writes the prophet.

Twice in Scripture, God reveals His own reckoning of time. "For a thousand years in Thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night" (Psalms 90:4).

Lindsey's trying to establish a new standard, upon which to predict the Second Coming. The new standard assumes the 4004 B.C. creation date, assumes God measures time in 1000 year periods, and then assumes the Hosea "two days" piece is prophetic and begins with the birth of Christ.
'It was restored politically in 1948, just before the conclusion of the 'two days' since the birth of Christ, but Ezekiel's chronology says that the political revival is only the first stage of Israel's "revival."' ....So, to return to Hosea, we find the prophecy that after two days, Israel will be revived, but in the third day, they will be "quickened" so that Israel might "live in His sight."
Lindsey now date-sets the "Second Coming" date about 1000 years in the future, far ahead enough for him to avoid dying of embarrassment, should he miscalculate the date again. In other words, Lindsey knows he was wrong about the 1988 date, but doesn't want to admit it, as he spells out here:
"It is clear that God is extending His "grace period" (the Church Age of Grace) to give all men one last chance to accept the gift of pardon that He extends to them, but it is equally clear that His patience is being rapidly exhausted.

How much longer will He wait before returning for His Church and effecting Israel's national redemption at the conclusion of the Tribulation Period?

Given the 12-year gap, we are somewhere between four years before and eight years into Hosea's Third Day."

And since Lindsey's new math system now tells us a day is a thousand years, Lindsey would have us believe we're somewhere between 992 years away ("eight years into") and 1004 years away ("four years before") from the Second Coming. He just really wants us to forget about all that 1988 date-setting stuff, hence the new math.
16 posted on 04/20/2006 7:40:18 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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Actually, judging by WND's headline "Hal Lindsey: 'Annals' calculation puts us in end times," I took it to mean he felt the Rapture could happen in the next few years. I just don't get how he gets "4 years before or 8 years into."


17 posted on 04/20/2006 7:54:44 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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Also, did you ever notice how in some sidewalks there are concrete pieces that read "Water Meter 666"? Weird.


18 posted on 04/20/2006 7:59:45 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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Lindsey now date-sets the "Second Coming" date about 1000 years in the future

I believe Lindsey puts that thousand years at the end of the 'third' day...I believe he suggests that Israel will be raised up at the beginning of the 3rd day...

It's a fascinating study in the bible when you start looking at all the references where it refers to two days, or three days, and four days and three days...Interesting stuff...

In fact, all of the churches as well as the world believes in this system...Most of them just don't realize it...Just ask anyone, pastor, priest or anyone..."When did the dark ages, or Middle ages take place?" Everyone will tell you, including the Pope, that that period of time was approx from 500 A.D. to 1500 A.D....

So what's that tell you??? It tells you that if 500-1500 was the Middle, 0 ofcourse was the beginning which is 500 years before 500 A.D., therefore, 500 years after the Middle is 2000 A.D....

That's 2 days (The Lord will rest on the third day, or on the 7th day when you count the first four days)...Give a few years one way or the other for calender discrepencies, and we are at the door...We are at the end...

19 posted on 04/20/2006 8:18:26 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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Also, did you ever notice how in some sidewalks there are concrete pieces that read "Water Meter 666"? Weird.

It's like Holy Water, only it's the opposite kind being pumped through there. Probably fluoridated water, designed to deny us purity of essence :D

20 posted on 04/20/2006 8:41:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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