Darwin is a Problem for Jews

The Jerusalem Post ^ | 4/18/2006 | David Klinghoffer

[mlc9852]

But it's pretty clear God did create the heavens and the earth along with plants, animals and humans.

[Alter Kaker]

Out of curiosity, "Yehuda," how long did you serve in the IDF? How many children do you have currently in uniform? I see you criticizing Israelis a lot for supposed cowardice, and you even put their Jewishness in quotes, yet according to your profile you live in New York.

[Alter Kaker]

But it's pretty clear God did create the heavens and the earth along with plants, animals and humans.

I accept that, but where does it say how? It seems like you're reading an awful lot into a couple of sentence clauses in order to reject the bulk of modern science.

[Echo Talon]

I also believe what the Bible says. But I recognize that there are limits to what it says and does not say. One thing it doesn't explicate is the method God used to create the universe.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:1

Now if you are questioning the Lord maybe you should read this...

here

[mlc9852]

The only thing I reject is that humans came from ape-like creatures.

[PetroniusMaximus]

reference ping

[Alter Kaker]

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Agreed. But it doesn't say how he did so. I see you like Job 40 -- but read Job 38, and God admonishes people like you who think you know more than you know.

[Alter Kaker]

The only thing I reject is that humans came from ape-like creatures.

That's fine, as long as you understand that your rejection of evolution is based on personal squeemishness and not on any sort of biblical mandate.

[PetroniusMaximus]

"If we who are Christians are to accept Jesus as the Son of God as being a literal truth, then it is impossible for Him to have been mistaken on this account"


Excellent summation.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Why was my post 17 removed? I said that the poster needed more historical study and that Darwin did not have a *rebellious* personality. He didn't; he was quite reluctant to rock the boat on a great many things. Is there a problem with stating this? I am at a loss as to what the problem was with the post.

Thanks in advance.

[Alter Kaker]

I'm not a Christian and I'm hesitant to challenge you on Christian theology, but since when do Christians believe that every single word of Jesus' was literally true? I was under the impression he was famous for speaking in parables.

[Echo Talon]

God admonishes people like you who think you know more than you know.

All I know is whats in the Bible, I'm not questioning it.

[Religion Moderator]

The phrasing was contentious and personal therefore I removed it.

[PetroniusMaximus]

"I was under the impression he was famous for speaking in parables."

He did indeed. But in most cases it is made clear by the author that Jesus was using a parable.

Almost always, an introductory phrase such as, "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto..." to distinguish a parable.

On the other hand, Jesus claimed to have been an eye witness - to have actually been present when Lucifer was cast out of heaven. This would be before the creation of man. This implies a lot about Jesus' knowlege of the facts of creation.

[Alter Kaker]

All I know is whats in the Bible, I'm not questioning it.

And that's exactly the problem -- because the only things you seem to know are what's in the Bible. Job thought he understood creation too from Genesis (or its pre-Mosaic precursor) and he was wrong. As are you. The Bible does not explain creation. It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"The phrasing was contentious and personal therefore I removed it."

It wasn't meant the way it came out, and will watch myself more closely in the future.

Thanks for the speedy reply. :)

[Echo Talon]

That's fine, as long as you understand that your rejection of evolution is based on personal squeemishness and not on any sort of biblical mandate.

Thats amazing that you can tell people how to worship and interpret the Bible are you some kind of prophet?

[PetroniusMaximus]

"It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened."

But it clearly addresses HOW LONG it took!

:)

[Echo Talon]

The Bible does not explain creation. It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened.

Like we would understand even if it did, eat any apples lately? sheesh, how long would that book be? LOL!

[Junior]

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