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Darwin is a Problem for Jews
The Jerusalem Post ^
| 4/18/2006
| David Klinghoffer
Posted on 04/18/2006 10:31:13 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
Did the software in the cell, DNA, write itself? Is genetic information the only information that science has ever encountered that was not generated by an intelligent agent? These are some of the questions raised by the scientific and cultural war going on over Charles Darwin's theory and its modern challenger, intelligent design.
In an April 6 Jerusalem Post op-ed, the writer and editor Larry Yudelson took me to task for arguing in numerous venues that the debate about Darwin is a crucial one for Jews who care about Judaism. If it was simply Yudelson offering his personal opinion that "Darwin is no problem for Jews" (the title of his article), I wouldn't have sought the generous permission of the editor to respond.
But given that Yudelson also summons no less a figure than Maimonides to the defense of Darwin, along with another rabbinic luminary, Abraham Isaac Kook, a response is necessary. MAIMONIDES lived seven centuries before Darwin presented his argument that natural selection operating on random genetic variation produced you and me. Yet Judaism's greatest sage of the past millennium was engaged in a strikingly similar scientific argument in his own time.
That argument centered on the question of whether the universe is eternal and without a starting point (the position of Aristotle) or whether it had a beginning in time at the moment of creation (Maimonides's view).
Larry Yudelson recommends to us the path of Maimonides, "who opposed his contemporaries who preached the eternity of the world simply because 'the theory has not been proved' (Guide II:25), while allowing that were it to be proved, it would not contradict the core Jewish beliefs."
I wish Mr. Yudelson had read that important chapter in Guide for the Perplexed more carefully. In fact, the sage writes that he rejects the eternity of the world for two reasons not, as Yudelson says, just one.
First, Maimonides rejected Aristotle's thinking on this point because it "has not been demonstrated." But second because it makes nonsense of the Jewish religion: "If the philosophers would succeed in demonstrating eternity as Aristotle understands it, the Torah as a whole would become void, and a shift to other opinions would take place. I have thus explained to you that everything is bound up with this problem."
Maimonides was saying that though parts of the Bible's text may indeed be interpreted in other than a literal fashion, there are philosophical reasons that make an eternal universe incompatible with the God of the Torah. Simply put, Aristotle makes God's role in the world, as a creator and guide, superfluous and impossible. AND DARWINISM does the very same thing, ascribing all creation to blind material processes, as Darwin himself wrote: "I would give absolutely nothing for the theory of natural selection if it requires miraculous additions at any one stage of descent."
Maimonides would ask if Darwinism nevertheless has been "demonstrated." Well, Darwin's followers reached a high point of self-confidence in 1959 with the Centennial Celebration held at the University of Chicago to mark the 100th-year anniversary of the publication of The Origin of Species. The event was notable for the total conviction on the part of many speakers that any debate about Darwin was over and done.
But since then, the intellectual trend has changed directions. The Discovery Institute has compiled a list of Darwin-doubting scientists, a list currently standing at more than 500 doctoral researchers at places like Berkeley, Princeton and MIT.
It is now 71 years since Rav Kook died. So obviously in writing the beautiful and poetic words that Larry Yudelson quotes, Kook was not aware of the current state of knowledge about microbiology and the nanotechnology of the cell. Was Kook a close student of Darwin's writings or of the state of biology even in his own day? Is Yudelson?
In theory, it's very inspiring and idealistic to write, as Kook did, that: "In general this is an important principle in the conflict of ideas, that when an idea comes to negate some teaching in the Torah, we must not, to begin with, reject it, but build the edifice of the Torah above it, and thereby we ascend higher, and through this ascent, the ideas are clarified."
In practice, however, there is simply no way to reconcile an idea with its precise negation. The premise of Judaism is that God commands us on the basis of his having created us. The question before us, therefore, is not a simple-minded one of whether the universe was made in six calendar days, but rather of whether the universe has a need for a God, period.
In the philosophical system elaborated by Darwin and his disciples, there is no room for a creator in any sense. To explain the existence of life without reference to a deity was Darwin's entire purpose.
He developed a theory that answered his own purpose, certainly not ours as Jews. Given that his idea has neither been unambiguously demonstrated nor is it congenial to Jewish belief - the two-fold test of Maimonides - I am bewildered to find Jews who are committed to Judaism rushing recklessly to Darwin's defense.
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To: Alter Kaker
But it's pretty clear God did create the heavens and the earth along with plants, animals and humans.
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04/18/2006 11:11:16 AM PDT
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mlc9852
To: Yehuda
Out of curiosity, "Yehuda," how long did you serve in the IDF? How many children do you have currently in uniform? I see you criticizing Israelis a lot for supposed cowardice, and you even put their Jewishness in quotes, yet according to your profile you live in New York.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:12:49 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: mlc9852
But it's pretty clear God did create the heavens and the earth along with plants, animals and humans.I accept that, but where does it say how? It seems like you're reading an awful lot into a couple of sentence clauses in order to reject the bulk of modern science.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:14:11 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: Alter Kaker
I also believe what the Bible says. But I recognize that there are limits to what it says and does not say. One thing it doesn't explicate is the method God used to create the universe. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:1
Now if you are questioning the Lord maybe you should read this...
here
To: Alter Kaker
The only thing I reject is that humans came from ape-like creatures.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: self
To: Echo Talon
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.Agreed. But it doesn't say how he did so. I see you like Job 40 -- but read Job 38, and God admonishes people like you who think you know more than you know.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:20:24 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: mlc9852
The only thing I reject is that humans came from ape-like creatures.That's fine, as long as you understand that your rejection of evolution is based on personal squeemishness and not on any sort of biblical mandate.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:21:22 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: Lord Washbourne
"If we who are Christians are to accept Jesus as the Son of God as being a literal truth, then it is impossible for Him to have been mistaken on this account"
Excellent summation.
To: admin
Why was my post 17 removed? I said that the poster needed more historical study and that Darwin did not have a *rebellious* personality. He didn't; he was quite reluctant to rock the boat on a great many things. Is there a problem with stating this? I am at a loss as to what the problem was with the post.
Thanks in advance.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:26:26 AM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
To: PetroniusMaximus; Lord Washbourne
I'm not a Christian and I'm hesitant to challenge you on Christian theology, but since when do Christians believe that every single word of Jesus' was literally true? I was under the impression he was famous for speaking in parables.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:27:29 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: Alter Kaker
God admonishes people like you who think you know more than you know. All I know is whats in the Bible, I'm not questioning it.
To: CarolinaGuitarman
The phrasing was contentious and personal therefore I removed it.
To: Alter Kaker; Lord Washbourne
"I was under the impression he was famous for speaking in parables."
He did indeed. But in most cases it is made clear by the author that Jesus was using a parable.
Almost always, an introductory phrase such as, "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto..." to distinguish a parable.
On the other hand, Jesus claimed to have been an eye witness - to have actually been present when Lucifer was cast out of heaven. This would be before the creation of man. This implies a lot about Jesus' knowlege of the facts of creation.
To: Echo Talon
All I know is whats in the Bible, I'm not questioning it.And that's exactly the problem -- because the only things you seem to know are what's in the Bible. Job thought he understood creation too from Genesis (or its pre-Mosaic precursor) and he was wrong. As are you. The Bible does not explain creation. It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened.
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:34:34 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
To: Religion Moderator
"The phrasing was contentious and personal therefore I removed it."
It wasn't meant the way it came out, and will watch myself more closely in the future.
Thanks for the speedy reply. :)
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posted on
04/18/2006 11:35:19 AM PDT
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
To: Alter Kaker
That's fine, as long as you understand that your rejection of evolution is based on personal squeemishness and not on any sort of biblical mandate. Thats amazing that you can tell people how to worship and interpret the Bible are you some kind of prophet?
To: Alter Kaker; Echo Talon
"It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened."
But it clearly addresses HOW LONG it took!
:)
To: Alter Kaker
The Bible does not explain creation. It dicusses what happened, but not how it happened. Like we would understand even if it did, eat any apples lately? sheesh, how long would that book be? LOL!
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