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To: AnnoyedOne
Sounds pretty good.
It speaks to the failure of medieval Europe, writes popular historian William Manchester, that "in the year 1500, after a thousand years of neglect, the roads built by the Romans were still the best on the continent." European powers were so absorbed in destroying each other and in suppressing peasant revolts and religious reform that they never quite got around to realizing the possibilities of contemporary innovations in public health, civil engineering, and other peaceful pursuits. Instead, they waged war in faraway lands, created and lost fortunes, and squandered millions of lives.

For all the wastefulness of medieval societies, however, Manchester notes, the era created the foundation for the extraordinary creative explosion of the Renaissance.

Drawing on a cast of characters numbering in the hundreds, Manchester does a solid job of reconstructing the medieval world, although some scholars may disagree with his interpretations. (Amazon.com)

Manchester is a good writer. Would be nice addition of a good read on medieval Europe, but far from an attempt at a scholarly history of the church. I doubt this is where you've been getting your "facts" on this thread; is it?
274 posted on 04/15/2006 1:29:07 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr

He covers the years from around 400 ad to 1000 ad, which is the period of time that the Church was at the height of it's power and glory. It is during these years that the doctrines of the RCC revealed their true nature. The nature of the church, while covered extensively, is not really the main focus of his work, which was the voyage of Magellan and the world he lived in, and he gives a quite detached and analytical portrait of simply what the world was like during that time. It was an attempt at a scholarly overview of the western world in that age, of which the Church was an integral part. Slightly dry reading, but very interesting and I highly recommend it.

You asked for one book, I gave you one, and even give you now HIS sources, so as I said, you can hash over the details with him if you choose. Personally, I am not going to waste further time with you. I say it is a waste of time because by challenging my assertions of the crimes by the RCC, and demanding my sources, you are either a)in denial and abjectly brainwashed to the point of being delusional, or b) aware that my accusations are true, and simply trying to make rhetorical points or trying to yank my chain. Given that you now say you have not denied my accusations, then I can only conclude that it be the latter. Whichever it may be, however, you have now made it onto the list of people with whom I consider discourse to be a waste of time.

As said above, He gets HIS facts from 75 footnoted sources (and I do think a number of them will probably qualify as "scholarly works on the history of the church"), including...

Life on a Medieval Barony by William Stearns Davis

Dictionary of National Biography : 3rd Supplement: 1912-1921 by H. W. C. Davis

The Age of Faith (The Story of Civilization, Volume 4) (Story of Civilization) by Will Durant

The Renaissance (The Story of Civilization. Vol. 5) (Story of Civilization) by Will Durant

Roman de la Rose by Lorris

City of God (Classics S.) by Saint, Bishop of Hippo Augustine

The People's Chronology: A Year-By-Year Record of Human Events from Prehistory to the Present by James Trager

The Divine Comedy of Dante by Dante Alighieri

A Treatise on the Astrolabe (Variorum Edition of the Works of Geoffrey Chaucer) by Geoffrey Chaucer

On the Revolutions : Nicholas Copernicus Complete Works by Nicholas Copernicus

Of the Imitation of Christ (Vintage Spiritual Classics) by Thomas Kempis

Ovid: The Art of Love by Ovid

The History of the Reign of Ferdinand and Isabella, the Catholic by William H. Prescott

The Emperor Charles V: The Growth and Destiny of a Man and of a World-empire by Karl Brandi

The European Discovery of America : The Southern Voyages, A.D. 1492-1616 by Samuel Eliot Morison

History of the Reign of Ferdinand and Isabella by William H. Prescott

Life Against Death: The Psychoanalytical Meaning of History by Norman O. Brown

A History of the Church: The World in Which the Church Was Founded (History of the Church (Sheed & Ward)) by Philip Hughes

English Social History: A Survey of Six Centuries by George M. Trevelyan

The Age of Reconnaissance by J. H. Parry

The Reformation in England: The King's Proceedings (Modern Revivals in History) by Philip Hughes

Life and Work in Medieval Europe (History of Civilization) by Prosper Boissonnade

Harvest of Medieval Theology by Heiko Oberman

Field Is Won by E. Reynolds

Emperor Charles V by Edward Armstrong

World of Michelangelo by Robert Coughlan

Calvin's Geneva by E. William Monter

Travel and Discovery in the Renaissance, 1420-1620 by Boies Penrose

Protestant Christianity Interpreted Through its Development by John Dillenberger

How the Reformation Happened by Hilaire Belloc

The death of a president, November 20-November 25, 1963 by William Raymond Manchester

Young Man Luther: A Study in Psychoanalysis and History (Austen Riggs Monograph, No 4) by Erik H. Erikson

Holy Roman Empire by James Bryce

Quests for Spices and New Worlds by Bertha Sanford Dodge

Social Life in Britain from the Conquest to the Reformation (Chivalry) by G. G. Coulton

Decline of the Medieval Church by Alexander Clarence Flick

South from the Spanish Main by Earl P. Hanson

A History of the Middle Ages, 284-1500 (Macmillan Student Editions) by Sidney Painter

Story of Magellan by Stefan Zweig

The Inquisition of the Middle Ages: Its Organization by Henry Charles Lea

GLORY AND THE DREAM by William Manchester

Life and Letters of Erasmus by James Anthony Froude

Praise of Folly: And, Letter to Martin Dorp, 1515 (Penguin Classics) by Desiderius Erasmus

They saw it happen: An anthology of eye-witnesses' accounts of events in British history, 1485-1688

Revolution in Time : Clocks and the Making of the Modern World, Revised and Enlarged Edition by David S. Landes

The Legacy of the Middle Ages (Legacy Series) by C. G. Crump

History of the Later Roman Empire: From the Death of Theodosius I to the Death of Justinian (Volume 1) by J. B. Bury

English Wayfaring Life in the Middle Ages by Jusserand

The Timetables of History : A Horizontal Linkage of People and Events by Bernard Grun

Chaucer and His England by G. G. Coulton

Three Copernican Treatises by Edward Rosen

Peace and World Order Studies : A Curriculum Guide, Fourth Edition by Barbara J. Wien

Protestant Christianity : Interpreted Through its Development by John Dillenberger

Heroes and Hero Worship by Thomas Carlyle

The Civilization of the Renaissance in Italy (Penguin Classics) by Jacob Burckhardt

The March of Folly : From Troy to Vietnam by Barbara W. Tuchman

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 2 (Modern Library) by Edward Gibbon

Western Society and the Church in the Middle Ages (Hist of the Church) by R. W. Southern

Works of Martin Luther: With Introduction and Notes, the Philadelphia Edition by Martin Luther

Prince Henry the Navigator by Charles R. Beazley

Men and Ideas: History, the Middle Ages, the Renaissance by Johan Huizinga

Catherine of Aragon by G. Mattingly

Education of a Christian Prince by Desiderius Erasmus

Admiral of the Ocean Sea : A Life of Christopher Columbus by Samuel Eliot Morison

Inquisition and Liberty by G. G. Coulton

Crises in the History of the Papacy by Joseph McCabe

The control of late ancient and medieval population by Josiah Cox Russell

The Coming of the Book: The Impact of Printing 1450-1800 (Verso Classics, 10) by Lucien Febvre

Literacy and Social Development (Cambridge Studies in Oral and Literate Culture) by Graff

Waning of the Middle Ages by J Huizinga

The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism (Routledge Classics) (Routledge Classics) by Max Weber

A History of Medieval Europe: From Constantine to Saint Louis by R. H. C. Davis

History of the Inquisition of the Middle Ages by H. C. Lea


276 posted on 04/15/2006 2:02:54 PM PDT by AnnoyedOne
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