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To: SOLDIEROFJESUSCHRIST
*Our Lord's original words here were "the pagans." Since the pontificate of Pope John XXIII, the Church has seen fit to replace this term with clearer and more appropriate terminology.

Now that's pretty funny... the Lord wasn't clear, and didn't use appropriate terminology? How insulting to Our Lord.

*Our Lord's original words here were "heretics and schismatics," since He spoke to Saint Faustina within the context of her times. As of the Second Vatican Council, Church authorities have seen fit not to use those designations in accordance with the explanation given in the Council's Decree on Ecumenism (n.3).

Something that happened about 25 years early wasn't "within the context of her times"? Why golly if that ain't yet another stroke of genius for ya.

The Divine Mercy is a fine devotion and I'm a real fan of it, but let me tell you something... I'm not going to let some clown change the words of Christ on me and pretend it was the Church that ordered it that way. When I say this novena, I'm using the good old words heretics, schismatics, and pagans. If that's what Jesus called 'em, then that's what they are.

Every Pope since the Council has reaffirmed that usage.

Bull. Show me.

Saint Faustina herself, her heart always in harmony with the mind of the Church, most certainly would have agreed.

Sure. Once we're done pretending to read her thoughts 70 years later, we'll start in on the Lord. Someone has to be real, real dense to fall for this kind of revisionism.

17 posted on 04/12/2006 1:30:47 AM PDT by reductio
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To: reductio; SOLDIEROFJESUSCHRIST

Dear reductio:

If you'll look closely at what SOJC posted, you will see that he was quoting from information put out by the Congregation of Marians and the Marians of the Immaculate Conception. I'm pretty sure the editorial comments were theirs and not SOJC's. I agree that they have a lot of audacity to change Our Lord's words. I think Jesus knew exactly which words He meant to use, or else He would have used other ones. It never fails to amaze me when people claim to know better than Jesus what He "really" meant!

nan c


18 posted on 04/12/2006 6:51:24 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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