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[" I found this "classic" the most pornographic, licentious, selfish pleausure-promoting, fallen human ego-aggrandizing, Way of Christ-bashing and senselessly violent reading I've done in a long time."-30carbine ]

Quite a beautiful passage written by our sister, a sweet spirit.. Her experience of and in the that book was my experience of several major denominations and few minor ones and even a cult or two.. over the years..

The Holy Spirit is definitely NOT welcome many of those places.. and I would suspect Jesus isn't either, the real one.. I can relate to what you've written here.. and to 30carbine too.. The only way I can think kindly of "those Church's" and congregations is I that noticed along the way.. That some view Jesus as a human body extant, and others as a Spirit using a human body for awhile..

The "Ones" that relate to Jesus as a human seem to glory in being a human themselves with all the pros and cons related to that.. The "Others" relate to Jesus as a Spirit before, after and during his human episode.. and being human was merely divine contact; on several levels..

1) Answer to Prophecy from prophets..
2) An Object Lesson for teaching..
3) An Epilogue to the Jewish experience..
4) A Prologue to the Spiritual experience..
5) And a hint to future ultimate Universal experience..

Was Jesus human or divine?.. Or a human masking divinity.. Important questions.. Was Jesus God?.. A human selected to do divine things.. Or God incarnate?.. If he was God incarnate then he was God before the incarnation, God being an eternal being.. Who specifically is the Godhead; God, the Holy Spirit and Jesus, "the Christ(Messiah)".. It don't say anywhere the answer to that.. Actually in Exodus Ch 3;3 it says(basically) "its none of our business".. Who they are.. i.e. "I am; sent you. I am that I am"..

Yes... Jesus(Spirit) riding a human body around like a donkey will/can give an expanded view of "the Plan".. For as I see it, that is promoted through metaphor all over the Old and New Testaments.. "We" are, also, spirits in human bodies.. Always were, all of us, understanding scripture especially the New Testament requires knowing that..

And IF "the Vision(or revelation) of Jesus"(Rev ch 1;1) is taken into account.. With its vision of the past, present and future events.. A prologue (metaphorically) is given to an extremely Spiritual future.. The human experience it seems then is based in humility and gratitude.. Properly humble with the right amount of gratitude we as humans who are really spirits can then see scripture spiritually and be encouraged that the architect of our spirits is building even today a proper spiritual dwelling place to house your and my spirits..

I got quite a bit of encouragement from this discourse between you and 30carbine.. Thanks to all involved.. For if the Spirit of the Christ is nothing its the TRUTH.. Truth rings like rubbing a wet crystal wine glass to me..