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Cardinal Arinze's Mass Etiquette 101
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| April 8, 2006
| Rocco Palmo
Posted on 04/08/2006 3:24:20 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
04/08/2006 3:24:24 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
"People enter churches to pray, not to be entertained." Amen to that! On Good Friday last year, some CINOs who now attend an Evangelical Church, decided to join us. While we all prayed in silence awaiting the priest's entrance, these two women carried on a conversation - a loud conversation. They had lost all sense of decorum. If they show up again this year, they'll get an earful from me - with Father's blessing.
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posted on
04/08/2006 3:29:50 PM PDT
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: NYer
I got "liturgical dancers" last Easter. I was out of town and picked the wrong church! I was not very happy.
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posted on
04/08/2006 4:14:44 PM PDT
by
samiam1972
(Live simply so that others may simply live!)
To: NYer
I like what he said, but could give him a few fashion tips on his choice of mitre in that pic. Yikes.
To: NYer
OK, nice talk, very sound... but what of the overlay stole? Ok, I'll bite, what is an overlay stole?
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posted on
04/08/2006 4:35:26 PM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
To: sockmonkey
I'll bet that was his mitre for a Pentacost mass.
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posted on
04/08/2006 4:36:07 PM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
To: NYer
"While we all prayed in silence"
It bothers me every Sunday, arrive at Mass attempt to pray, and I'm listening to people chattering all around like they are at a cocktail party! drives me batty!
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posted on
04/08/2006 4:56:46 PM PDT
by
SAMS
(Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
To: NYer
. . .and for an end to soft background music . . . I call it "interlude" music. A few years back the organist was playing interlude music before Mass. One of the hits of the day was "The Impossible Dream"!
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posted on
04/08/2006 5:15:11 PM PDT
by
choirboy
To: choirboy; NYer
On the other hand, a quiet Bach fugue or a nice choral chant before Mass is acceptable, yes?
Our organist never cuts loose with Louis Vierne until the postlude . . . although if he played him up front, nobody could talk before Mass because they couldn't hear themselves think (which would kind of make it pointless because they couldn't hear themselves pray, either.)
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posted on
04/08/2006 7:08:49 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
Hooray! I can't tell you how annoying it is to hear a piano piece during the Consecration as if we're watching a movie. Do we really need a soundtrack at Mass? I understand the desire for music and to celebrate, but save it for another time.
Music has been made so cheap because of it's mass availability. There use to be an age when music was hard to come by and to hear a band play would literally stop traffic. Nowadays, I feel as if I have to get into my car and drive just to have some quiet time.
Have you ever fasted from music (and noise) the way you'd fast from food? Take a road trip with the radio off?
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posted on
04/08/2006 8:09:31 PM PDT
by
SaltyJoe
(A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
To: Straight Vermonter
I'll bet that was his mitre for a Pentacost mass. I also thought it was probably for Pentecost, but that it still looked gaudy and just a little too "70's hip" for a Prince of the Church to be wearing.
To: samiam1972
I got "liturgical dancers" last Easter.Oh, yeah, the Altar Nymphs.
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posted on
04/09/2006 12:39:10 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace Begins in the Womb)
To: SaltyJoe
Do we really need a soundtrack at Mass?Why do they have to fill the mass with noise? I do mean noise. I wouldn't call what we have music. "It's all about me Lord, it's all about me."
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posted on
04/09/2006 12:41:52 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace Begins in the Womb)
To: SAMS
It bothers me every Sunday, arrive at Mass attempt to pray, and I'm listening to people chattering all around like they are at a cocktail party! drives me batty! Speak with your pastor about this. Sometimes, all it takes is a gentle ..... 'ahem' ..... reminder from the pulpit and some well placed signs.
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posted on
04/09/2006 4:57:26 AM PDT
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: NYer
I would, but he's the one in the back of the church greeting them & telling them where to find the wine & chees!
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posted on
04/09/2006 5:00:10 AM PDT
by
SAMS
(Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
To: SaltyJoe
I can't tell you how annoying it is to hear a piano piece during the Consecration as if we're watching a movie. Do we really need a soundtrack at Mass? I understand the desire for music and to celebrate, but save it for another time. OMG - flashback to a similar experience at my former RC parish. That occured at one of the Masses and, like you, I was stunned to see the Consecration, set to background music.
Have you ever fasted from music (and noise) the way you'd fast from food? Take a road trip with the radio off?
Lol ... two years ago, I gave up tv and radio (except for EWTN and some classical music) during Lent. Ridding my life of noise opened up more time for prayer and silent conversation with our Lord. It's now become permanent. I get my news off the Internet - AND - I can post my own opinions ;-)
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posted on
04/09/2006 5:11:02 AM PDT
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: AnAmericanMother; choirboy; SaltyJoe
On the other hand, a quiet Bach fugue or a nice choral chant before Mass is acceptable, yes? Given the penchant of so many parishioners to indulge in idle chatter before liturgy, a quiet Bach fugue might actually serve to quiet them. Perhaps this desire to have background music is a reflection of a world now filled with inescapable noise. People are no longer accustomed to silence and immediately respond by filling it with music or conversation.
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posted on
04/09/2006 5:25:54 AM PDT
by
NYer
(Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
To: choirboy
Man of LaMancha? I hate to break it to you, but that was a LOT more than a few years back :^D
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posted on
04/09/2006 1:21:33 PM PDT
by
dangus
To: NYer
" If they show up again this year, they'll get an earful from me - with Father's blessing."
Go get 'em! BAM! Or signal Father in some way so he'll know they're yapping and he can stop and publicly point right at them and tell them to shut their traps. With any luck, they'll die of embarrassment!
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posted on
04/10/2006 5:53:20 AM PDT
by
Convert from ECUSA
(aztlan or muslim - either way it means dhimmitude...we must remember in November)
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