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To: AnnoyedOne
But I am unsure whether that description of God would be in contradiction to accepted gospels.

Then you might want to make sure, rather than going off on weird tangents and conspiracy theories.

In any case, the true Gospels, not to mention the whole rest of the Bible, reveal a transcendent, personal God, who became incarnate in time.

That is, of course, a contradiction of any form of pantheism.

As for the rest, it has been the subject of numerous threads on this forum. Suffice it to say that Christ founded the Church as a visible institution. He didn't do so for no reason.

however, according to the Church, you can only come to the Father thru the Church.

I'm not sure which Church you think teaches that. It's certainly not the Catholic Church; nor any of the Orthodox Churches. The others, I'll let defend themselves.

And that's pretty much all I have to say about that.

25 posted on 04/06/2006 8:57:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
however, according to the Church, you can only come to the Father thru the Church.

I'm not sure which Church you think teaches that. It's certainly not the Catholic Church; nor any of the Orthodox Churches.

So you are telling me that the Catholic Church does not teach it's members that they must have the Church, and all of it's rituals etc, in order to go to Heaven? Since when? Just about every organized religion I ever heard of tells it's followers precisely that. "We are right, thus everyone else is wrong, and gonna burn".

26 posted on 04/06/2006 9:02:23 PM PDT by AnnoyedOne
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To: ArrogantBustard

'The Truth' - from the people who brought you the Dark Ages, the Flat Earth, the Childrens Crusade, and the Inquisitions.


27 posted on 04/06/2006 9:05:19 PM PDT by AnnoyedOne
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