[TradicalRC]

The church which exemplifies this most is Westminster Abbey. Any Catholic visitor to London will be amazed at how this once proud Benedictine Abbey has been turned into a museum of English civil heroes. At every turn one finds statues of statesmen, kings, and politicians, while the heroes of the Christian faith are relegated to the margins.

England had long wanted to subordinate Church to the State. This goes back at least to William of Occam. Sadly, we are the child of England and have to a lesser degree, followed suit. The only difference being that The English government endorsed the Anglican Church while we endorse no church, merely a secular ideology which conveniently has no "organized" church.

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"Sadly, we are the child of england?" You've got to be kidding me.

"Conveniently has no 'organized' church" Ya know, with comments like these no wonder there were a lot of anti-Catholicism in the early days of America.

[DTwistedSisterS]

No, you forget the ACLU...