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To: dangus
My point was that absent Daniel's detective-work, Susanna would be in a lot of hot water. In the reformation era, many civil judges were quite happy to accept testimony without finding corroborative evidence, asserting that had fulfilled their biblical mandate.

My argument from the other two passages is that the story of Daniel you quoted adds nothing new. The evidence should have been looked into regardless ("The judges must make a thorough investigation..."), as you see in the second passage (that you conveniently failed to quote). I am not diminishing Daniel's importance in that specific instance in the least, I am saying that this adds no precedence that did not already exist.

Being a Protestant, I do not acknowledge the extra verses in the Book of Daniel.

65 posted on 03/16/2006 11:33:12 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro

They're not "extra" verses -- they're ones that were deleted by Protestant "reformers."

Know thy Bible version history, kid.


68 posted on 03/16/2006 11:51:11 AM PST by AlaninSA (It's one nation under God -- brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Señor Zorro

>> The evidence should have been looked into regardless ("The judges must make a thorough investigation..."), as you see in the second passage (that you conveniently failed to quote). I am not diminishing Daniel's importance in that specific instance in the least, I am saying that this adds no precedence that did not already exist. <<

Like I said, the prophet Daniel did not surpass Mosaic law, but rather demonstrated a techniques of investigation which had not been common: cross-examination and crime-scene investigation. Without demonstration of the need for these practices, even the judges in Daniel's time failed to discover the truth. (You'll note that Daniel was not a judge at the time.)

>> Being a Protestant, I do not acknowledge the extra verses in the Book of Daniel. <<

My point exactly. But aren't you even curious why this one chapter was excluded, suddenly, in the 16th century, when it had been included for 1800 years?


78 posted on 03/16/2006 12:45:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: Señor Zorro

>> The evidence should have been looked into regardless ("The judges must make a thorough investigation..."), as you see in the second passage (that you conveniently failed to quote). I am not diminishing Daniel's importance in that specific instance in the least, I am saying that this adds no precedence that did not already exist. <<

Like I said, the prophet Daniel did not surpass Mosaic law, but rather demonstrated a techniques of investigation which had not been common: cross-examination and crime-scene investigation. Without demonstration of the need for these practices, even the judges in Daniel's time failed to discover the truth. (You'll note that Daniel was not a judge at the time.)

>> Being a Protestant, I do not acknowledge the extra verses in the Book of Daniel. <<

My point exactly. But aren't you even curious why this one chapter was excluded, suddenly, in the 16th century, when it had been included for 1800 years?


82 posted on 03/16/2006 1:06:10 PM PST by dangus
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