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To: sionnsar
I have more respect for the heretics and apostates running ECUSA then I do for those for the so called orthodox who can not grasp that by remaining they are giving cover to the lunacy going on there. I think collaborating with heresy in this way is worse than being a heretic. Heretics usually are acting in accord on some level with their conscience. They don't believe they are doing something gravely wrong, or at least have convinced themselves of that. The collaborators know better, but remain anyway.
3 posted on 03/14/2006 4:33:41 PM PST by jecIIny (You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
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To: jecIIny

I am unable to disagree with your post.


9 posted on 03/15/2006 1:06:58 AM PST by PAR35
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To: jecIIny
"I have more respect for the heretics and apostates running ECUSA then I do for those for the so called orthodox who can not grasp that by remaining"

I guess I'm a bit confused by your post.

Are you indicating that the Orthodox who remain in the church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit in an effort to help the Lord protect that portion of the flock who fail to fully understand the gravity of what is happening around them are somehow worse than the leaders who have strayed from God's church?

Are you saying that the orthodox who find themselves in the heat of spiritual battle with the Lord in an attempt to help guard God's children from the stealing of souls by satan and his minions from the Father are worse than heretics.

If I am reading your post correctly, you should reevaluate your statement and look a the big picture here. We battle not against flesh and blood, but principalities. In other words, this is a spiritual battle.

This is not about homosexuality, nor is it about scriptural authority as much as it is about satan attempting to tear down what is rightfully God's from within, using the very persons that vowed to uphold scripture.

Look around, it's happening in just about EVERY mainline denomination.

Gee wizz, sounds so much like a story I've read in a very well know book.
10 posted on 03/15/2006 6:17:54 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: jecIIny

A friend of my is an ELCA Lutheran. He was in seminary, and almost lost his faith as a result. About the time of my wedding, he fled, and is now working at a retreat.

Despite all that he has seen, he will not leave the ELCA. He wants to help "save" it, although he no longer feels that he could be a pastor in it since he doesn't believe anything the leadership is saying.

I keep asking him why he stays in communion with a group that no longer really believes in the God of the Bible.


11 posted on 03/15/2006 6:33:07 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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