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To: Bear_Slayer
Sorry, but I can see that your mind is made up and that you have decided in your infinite wisdom to label things you can't or don't want to understand as "ecstatic babblings". You seem to really like that particular phrase. Good to know that you have such a "mature" understanding of scripture. Maybe you can hire yourself out to God as a consultant.

You claim there is no Biblical support, yet every time anyone has offered it on this thread you have dismissed it because it doesn't fit with your personal theology, so you therefore choose to ignore it.

1Cor.14:2 says, "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. For no one hears, but in spirit he speaks mysteries." You want to try and make the distinction between speaking and praying, but when you pray to God, are you not speaking to Him? What do you think it is if not speaking to Him? Duuhhh!!

But I guess if that makes you comfortable to try and split hairs like the Pharisees were fond of doing, then go ahead. Just don't tell me about your "mature biblical understanding" when all you do is label, ridicule, name call, and display your close-mindedness.

Yeah, you've got it all figured out.

73 posted on 03/12/2006 11:47:18 AM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: Pablo64
Sorry, but I can see that your mind is made up

Yeah, I thought I was pretty clear about that. Biblical maturity forces me to recognize that "praying in toungues" is exactly what Christ forbade and what Paul discourages.

and that you have decided in your infinite wisdom

I never said that I had infinite wisdom. Now who is ridiculing?

to label things you can't or don't want to understand as "ecstatic babblings".

As I said previously, I have studied the bible numerous times, both carefully and prayerfully. Why is it that you insist that I can't or won't understand something that I have admittedly studied very carefully. Is that you displaying your close-mindedness?You seem to really like that particular phrase.

I like it because it is accurate.

Good to know that you have such a "mature" understanding of scripture.

Sacasm. Ridiculing. Pot meet kettle.

Maybe you can hire yourself out to God as a consultant.

More of the same and without substance.

you're laughable.

1Cor.14:2 says, "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. For no one hears, but in spirit he speaks mysteries."

Paul makes a distinction that speaking in tongues does not edify others. Only God can understand. But God being omniscient already understands. Paul is being sarcastic in this sentence. It is only logical.

You want to try and make the distinction between speaking and praying,

I make a distinction because Paul makes a distinction. The word says "speak", not "pray".

but when you pray to God, are you not speaking to Him?

Yes. but the word specifically says, "speaking in tongues, " not "praying in tongues" Why do you insist on changing God's word?

What do you think it is if not speaking to Him? Duuhhh!!

More of your own ridiculing? God is omniscient. He does not need you to babble incoherently. It does you, others and Him no good.

Just don't tell me about your "mature biblical understanding" when all you do is label, ridicule, name call, and display your close-mindedness. Again -- Pot meet kettle. You're laughable.

Yeah, you've got it all figured out.

If you are referring to the issues of "tongues" then yes I do. If you were more mature and less stubborn you would also.

74 posted on 03/12/2006 6:03:44 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
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