The Lord Will Not At All Acquit the Wicked

http://www.wordsoftruth.net/wordsoftruthbull03_20_2005.html ^ | Brian A. Yeager

[labette]

ping for later

[P-Marlowe]

WordsofTruth.net, huh?

I am always immediately suspicious of any group or church that claims in it's official name to be the unique bearers of "Truth."

Generally these groups are exclusive and legalistic and tend to lean towards cultism.

So, what group does "WordsofTruth.net" represent?

[bremenboy]

***So, what group does "WordsofTruth.net" represent?***

It represents no group

It is owned and operated by Brian A. Yeager a friend of mine no money comes from any group or organization all if paid for out of his own pocket

**** am always immediately suspicious of any group or church that claims in it's official name to be the unique bearers of "Truth."***

are you suspicious of Jesus

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[P-Marlowe]

It is owned and operated by Brian A. Yeager a friend of mine

Here's an interesting quote from your friend Brian Yeager:

"While it is not the only difference between the true church and the Christian Church. It is one that is most recognized as a major difference, and it is one reason why the Christian Church split from the body of Christ."

So what he is saying is the the "Christian Church" is not a part of the Body of Christ.

I knew I would find something weird if I looked into the WordofTruth.net site.

Do you agree that the "Christian Church" is not a part of the body of Christ?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I'm interested to know how you would define
"the wicked"? Those who perform wicked acts?
Or all those who don't accept Christ?

[bremenboy]

***Do you agree that the "Christian Church" is not a part of the body of Christ?***

the christian church that is mention in the article that you read is a denomination that teaches false doctrine
therefore it would be imposable for it to be the body of Christ

I have answered both of your questions please answer mine

[bremenboy]

How I define wicked is immaterial it is how God defines wicked that counts>

1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

[Invincibly Ignorant]

That's funny. I thought I was trying to have a conversation with you. Nevermind.

[P-Marlowe]

the christian church that is mention in the article that you read is a denomination that teaches false doctrine therefore it would be imposable for it to be the body of Christ

That specific quote was in regard to the use of any type of musical instrument in the worship of God. So any "denomination" that uses musical instruments would be outside the body of Christ, is that correct?

I was once in a Church of Christ where the pastor used a tone whistle. I suspect that Church was outside the body of Christ, correct?

[bremenboy]

***That specific quote was in regard to the use of any type of musical instrument in the worship of God.***

the context has to do with mechanical instruments. The New testament authorizes a instrument

(Ephesians 5:19) "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord."

there is a difference between an aid and a addition.I would guess from you questions and other posts that I have read. You are smart enough to understand the difference.

once more please anwser my question

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

"If we as Christians would spend more time trying to please God and less time trying to excuse our faults, we would not need to worry so much about our sins."

A-men...

[P-Marlowe]

there is a difference between an aid and a addition.I would guess from you questions and other posts that I have read. You are smart enough to understand the difference.

Since a piano or an organ is usually used as an "aid" to keep everyone in key and in tempo, then that I suppose would be kosher? And since a drum set is usually used for the purpose of keeping everyone on beat and up to speed, then I suppose that would be an "aid" and kosher too?

So if I can't make any vocal sounds because I am a mute, are you going to prohibit me from making melody in my heart by playing a lute or other stringed instrument? Would your "one true" church be engaged in false doctrine if it accomodated the worship needs of mutes?

[Alex Murphy]

I was once in a Church of Christ where the pastor used a tone whistle. I suspect that Church was outside the body of Christ, correct?

Perhaps if he blew it in such a way as to render an off-key note, it would be a sweet sound in God's ear?

[jkl1122]

"So if I can't make any vocal sounds because I am a mute, are you going to prohibit me from making melody in my heart by playing a lute or other stringed instrument?"

Playing any type of instrument is not making melody in the heart.

[P-Marlowe]

Playing any type of instrument is not making melody in the heart.

Obviously you've never played a musical instrument... At least not well.

BTW if you are going to take that verse literally, as you seem to be doing, then if you are going to make melody in your heart, then you should simply attach a microphone to a stethescope and you guys can all listen to the melody from the heart. Obviously your vocal chords are not your heart and the vocal chords are an "instrument".

Sheesh.

[Alex Murphy]

P-Marlowe, in #16: if you are going to make melody in your heart, then you should simply attach a microphone to a stethescope and you guys can all listen to the melody from the heart.

bremenboy, in #11: there is a difference between an aid and a addition.I would guess from you questions and other posts that I have read. You are smart enough to understand the difference.

Flag on the field!

No microphones or stethoscopes, P-M. I guess that ol' heartbeat will have to make its melody a capella.

[bremenboy]

Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

Luk 2:19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.

Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

THINK

[Alex Murphy]

OR THWIM

[P-Marlowe]

Of all the rediculous unscriptural doctrines that churches have developed over the centuries, the prohibition of musical instruments based on some perceived silence in the new testament has to rank among the stupidest.

The fact of the matter is that ALL musical instruments are played "from the heart" be they stringed instruments, wind instruments or percussion. The voice is merely a wind instrument. If you want to be technical it is a reed instrument similar to a reed organ or a harmonica. Air goes through the pipe and there is a vibrating reed called a vocal chord which triggers vibrations in the air which create a song from the heart. The same can be said for a saxophone which simply does the same thing that the human voice does, but it does it using a bamboo vocal chord. An organ does the same thing as whistling.

Keyboard and stringed instruments are played from the heart through the fingers.

God made music. He admonishes us to use whatever instrument we can find to worship him. Those to whom God has given a talent are admonished to use that talent to the glory of God. All God asks is that we worship him in spirit and in truth and he does not prohibit the use of musical instruments in his worship. Indeed, if he did, then David was not a man after God's own heart as God proclaimed and that would make God out to be a liar.

I could care less if your church prohibits the use of musical instruments. That is your perogative. But I will not sit idly by while you condemn the hearts of those who by the grace of God are gifted in the playing of musical instruments and who use those god given instruments to the glory of Almighty God.

Your silly doctrine is a doctrine of men not of God.