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"Pontif comes from the Latin for Bridge maker as in modern Italian Ponte means bridge. As in a bridge (connection) between The Heavenly and the Earthly Church REF: Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Is this how you try and claim that the supernatural powers JESUS breathed into his Apostles were passed on? I don't believe it for a second. The Apostles were the men that walked with JESUS when he was on the earth. Any successive leaders in a church may have been truly devout, but they are Disciples.

BTW, another way to read that passage is that the Apostles knowing who JESUS truly was if they preached the gospel then those that believed in JESUS would receive the keys to the kingdom ie., salvation and those that did not would be bound for damnation. One thing is crystal clear JESUS did not indicate any supernatural powers would be passed on, maybe because he knew large institutions become corrupted and self promoting over time.
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" The Tridentine Mass is an ancient Mass dating from the 6th century. That's as far back as I can take you with a living tradition. "

The 6th century follows the era when the church became a part of the State under Constantine. The living tradition you refer to is another way of saying not SCRIPTURAL, or in other words, "we can do what we want such as creating a magisterium to dictate what people can think and believe".

No thank you. I will take my example from the Bereans who reviewed SCRIPTURE to determine if any doctrine was in conflict with it.

WMFIGHTS: "Under Constantine changes in worship included incense being used, choirs were developed, riches and pomp were seen as GOD'S favor (until this time Christianity was largely a faith of the poor)."

v: Please read Exodus 25-40, Leviticus 6:15-17 for just a small sampling of how incense figures in the worship of the Lord in the Judeo-Christian tradition. But more to the point: will you walk a mile in my shoes? Please read the 5th chapter of Revelations Then please seek out and attend a Tridentine Mass and come back and tell me whether you still think the incense, pomp, forms, order, and music in the Catholic Mass is from the Pagans or lifted straight from Scripture.... The first part of my request to you (Reading Scripture To See If These Things Were So) is certainly easy enough that I would have hoped you would have done it prior to making your comment vis a vis pagan influences in my Church rather than taking someone else's rather poorly researched word for it.

WMFIGHTS: "The 6th century follows the era when the church became a part of the State under Constantine. The living tradition you refer to is another way of saying not SCRIPTURAL.

"No thank you. I will take my example from the Bereans who reviewed SCRIPTURE to determine if any doctrine was in conflict with it."

Irony meter...off...the...charts.

BTW, Baptists believe the Apostles had Supernatural (Godlike) Powers? That's surprising.

Thank you for your time.