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To: gscc
Sorry to disappoint you, like the Boreans I go to Scripture as the source to criticize false teachings. When scripture tells me: "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5) I am then able to see that a doctrine that promulgates Mary and saints as intercessors as a false teaching.

Gee, I haven't heard one bit of properly understood Catholic doctrine that you've been able to refute with scripture. It would sure be nice if, rather than throwing stones, you would be able to actually do as you've threatened. All I've heard is empty lies and distortions from you. I've heard you say "Mary and saints as intercessors", but I've seen no understanding of Catholic doctrine on the subject...and I've seen no scripture cited to refute that understanding.

A lot of talk, no communication.

FRiend, that is not indicative of one who has any understanding. Rather than being the words of one who has understanding and honest disagreement, those are the words of somebody who merely reflects the bigotry he's been taught. I don't hold it to your charge...I'm confident that this is reflective of what's been spewed at you every Sunday for however many years.

But if you choose to stay in your ignorance, feel free. If you'd seriously like to discuss doctrine, I'll be happy to do so.

957 posted on 02/18/2006 5:36:17 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley
If you'd seriously like to discuss doctrine, I'll be happy to do so.

So show how this doctrine is supported by scripture.

The Catholic doctrine of intercession and invocation is set forth by the Council of Trent, which teaches that

the saints who reign together with Christ offer up their own prayers to God for men. It is good and useful suppliantly to invoke them, and to have recourse to their prayers, aid, and help for obtaining benefits from God, through His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, Who alone is our Redeemer and Saviour. Those persons think impiously who deny that the Saints, who enjoy eternal happiness in heaven, are to be invoked; or who assert either that they do not pray for men, or that the invocation of them to pray for each of us is idolatry, or that it is repugnant to the word of God, and is opposed to the honour of the one Mediator of God and men, Jesus Christ (Sess. XXV).

 

958 posted on 02/18/2006 5:46:40 PM PST by gscc
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